Community in this game is unbelievable.

[Marleytiva]

funny thing is, you're right it isn't all about you but look at everything that happens? oh look i have to carry you, you have to be geared like me, you have to do it my way.

get my point? in the end you're just as selfish as the person you're criticizing.

Expecting people to meet basic requirements when doing content isn't selfish. It has nothing to do with carrying or whatever it is you're talking about. That Marauder's time isn't worth more than the rest of that party that actually unlocked their jobs and took the time to have their basics taken care of before doing party content. You shouldn't treat people as badly as that healer did, but that Marauder isn't exempt from criticism.

[Musashidon]

Expecting people to meet basic requirements when doing content isn't selfish. It has nothing to do with carrying or whatever it is you're talking about. That Marauder's time isn't worth more than the rest of that party that actually unlocked their jobs and took the time to have their basics taken care of before doing party content. You shouldn't treat people as badly as that healer did, but that Marauder isn't exempt from criticism.

there are requirements to dungeons that need them. it's that simple. he did nothing wrong and you criticize him because he doesn't meet your standards its that simple.

[Marleytiva]

there are requirements to dungeons that need them. it's that simple. he did nothing wrong and you criticize him because he doesn't meet your standards its that simple.

Would you say the same about a Warrior that walked into the extreme primals without provoke? Oh, I can meet minimum item level requirement for all of the primals. It's cool if I go Marauder, yeah? Who needs Provoke, Inner Beast, etc. I can keep going on and on. If someone gets upset because I can't be bothered to unlock a job, it's just people wanting me to meet their over the top standards, right? People expecting me to have basics for a role are just mean meanies.

Sorry for all the sarcasm, but I recognize that other peoples' time is just as important as mine. I make sure that I have all my basics covered before I do anything that could adversely effect my ability to help a group complete content. I don't understand how that mindset is selfish.

i don't see how a end game primal ex battle justifys being mad over something as small as entering a easy low lvl dungeon as mrd instead of war.

time is wasted no matter how over geared over prepared or quickly you do something because that's the point of a mmo in the end you did nothing but waste time, and no matter how you look at it if you believe time is all the matters unless you are in the best gear and have the perfect job set up you're wasting time because you can always do it better and faster.

Try reading a bit more carefully next time. It's not just about the time, it's about me wasting the time of 3-7 other people because I'm lazy. I meet the minimum requirements for those fights, right? According to you that's all that matters.

[Musashidon]

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i don't see how a end game primal ex battle justifys being mad over something as small as entering a easy low lvl dungeon as mrd instead of war.

time is wasted no matter how over geared over prepared or quickly you do something because that's the point of a mmo in the end you did nothing but waste time, and no matter how you look at it if you believe time is all the matters unless you are in the best gear and have the perfect job set up you're wasting time because you can always do it better and faster.

[Gamemako]

Expecting people to meet basic requirements when doing content isn't selfish.

Basic requirements? You hardly even use Defiance in Qarn anymore. Nothing hits hard enough to care, so you're better off just bashing without the damage reduction 90% of the time. You never need it, either; Terataur's pony is Doom, the golem doesn't hardly attack the tank at all, and the final guardian hits like a wet paper sack. I accidentally queued and completed Qarn as GLA once, and that is far worse than doing it as MRD because PLD gets bonus damage where WAR does not.

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One annoying player =/= bad community.

I also made a post about this problem in another dungeon. It's pretty well everywhere.

[Marleytiva]

Basic requirements? You hardly even use Defiance in Qarn anymore. Nothing hits hard enough to care, so you're better off just bashing without the damage reduction 90% of the time. You never need it, either; Terataur's pony is Doom, the golem doesn't hardly attack the tank at all, and the final guardian hits like a wet paper sack. I accidentally queued and completed Qarn as GLA once, and that is far worse than doing it as MRD because PLD gets bonus damage where WAR does not.

He was a new player. You can probably bet he hadn't farmed for much gear if he couldn't take the time to unlock his job. So he's a newbie, probably undergeared, inexperienced, and could use all the help he can get. Are you really saying him not unlocking Warrior wouldn't help him? I get that some of us are accustomed to the dungeons and we could do it without issue, but you shouldn't make excuses for lazy people.

[Gamemako]

He was a new player. You can probably bet he hadn't farmed for much gear if he couldn't take the time to unlock his job. So he's a newbie, probably undergeared, inexperienced, and could use all the help he can get. Are you really saying him not unlocking Warrior wouldn't help him?

If he hasn't unlocked WAR, he probably doesn't have the appropriate cross-class abilities to make MRD as effective anyway. That's all beside the point, because it just doesn't matter at all. You will get through that dungeon just fine without WAR. It's like protesting about a tank's HP at the Demon Wall. Yeah, would be nice if you could completely forgo healing for the entire fight and just DPS, but it's not even close to a dealbreaker. The reason this entire thing is so utterly egregious is that it's a completely trivial matter that made the healer rage.