Raimdelle Reborn: The Neverending Bestiary

[Anonymoose]

So I can't help but wonder if it's just a generic death animation or if all these bosses are tied to the void somehow.

Going through the cutscene list, all of the enemies that are not of the five races or primals have the animation, so, despite looking void-ish, with the black and purple smoke and bits of aether, I'm with you that it might just be generic. Even the Sahagin has it - a primal-tempered spoken, as does Aiatar, a normal scalekin as far as we know, and finally Miser's Mistress, who I don't see having any connection the void; not a single voidsent appears in the Aurum Vale.

[cearka]

what O-o this is awesome.

[RolandDebreton]

what O-o this is awesome.

Tis,' Anony did a good job! As did all the contributors and those who dropped info. Now hopefully we could do something to flag Ferne's aid. Here is my offering:



Ferne... I'm issuing this bad boy to you! We are in need of some lore certitude on Raimdelle's efforts. Cleaning up the uncertainties, the last few "whasats," and a boat load of, "its kinda this, and kinda that." No need for lore bombs, a few lore roman candles will do....

We are issuing a lump sum of gratitude and your choice of a fierce appreciation or teary eyed joy as a reward.

[Anonymoose]

<Guildleve Placard>

This is funny and awesome and I'm saving it forever.

Now hopefully we could do something to flag Ferne's aid.

If that which is heard around water coolers proves true, the Return of the Ferne is not yet at hand. I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that someone over there watches these threads, given how Patch 2.1 was careful to answer a handful of specific questions we'd been asking here for some time. For that reason I just keep digging and keep talking about the things for which digging yields no clues. In the meantime, Twelve know I've got plenty of transcripts to build...

[Kyan]

Oh, my! Hahahahaha. That's hilarious!

[RolandDebreton]

Had a few more treasure maps lately that gave me some Territorial __, and Alpha ___ I've never seen before thought I'd share them as categories:







All three were interesting because I thought that the alphas would be the overall genus, but they seem to be merely specialized species demarcations. The Death Gaze was also very interesting, their model is used very little so the few times I see it, it tends to catch the eye.

[Anonymoose]

<Territorial/Alpha Images>

I think we've got enough to be confident in Bomb bomb / Bomb grenade and Ochu ochu / Ochu microchu. Death Gaze we know as Genus and Species but have multiple hints for Class. Still leaning towards Voidsent despite the Simurgh FATE and links to Aevis, but we'll see.

The birds, though... the birds, man! I've seen Vultures in red and blue. Condors in red, blue, and black. Buzzards in blue. I've yet to consciously notice the white or yellow species in the game, so we have three common labels and three common colors. I can confirm five blue buzzards and four black condors. This matches Version 1.0, where these two names matched these two colorings and both were called Vulture. But the red... Sylphlands Condor. Territorial Vulture. Bateleur. Blood Bateleur. Lammergeyer.

Despite my (so far) seeing no uniform naming whatsoever, if we award each label to the coloring it shows up with most often we end up with Genus Vulture, Species Buzzard (blue), Condor (black), and Bateleur (red), two (as far as I know) unused palettes. I'll update the chart with those as the present white-celled "Guess" labels. Damn birds are as bad as the Ziz, lol.

[Lusavari]

You can't really use those too effectively to classify though... Have you seen the Alpha Coeurl? It's a Torama.

[Anonymoose]

Have you seen the Alpha Coeurl? It's a Torama.

I did notice that ><

I've taken to the rule of thumb that the basic visual archetype (3D Model) is the Genus and all the optional pieces (horns, bulbs, various appendages) and palette swaps denote Species. Following this rule of thumb, some Alpha/Territorial names refer to genus, some to species (and some don't even do that. Roselet, to name one.). Considering the mob names do the same thing (Fat Dodo is a cockatrice, but the name refers to the Genus), it's a fair enough assumption to make. Of course, this also means that the official website bestiary is referring to the torama (species) being a cousin of the coeurl (species) and not a cousin of the entire coeurl genus.

[Lusavari]

So then Ziz of course is our whole genus... But the pallets are still super confusing... There's no consensus at all on that group. Based on encounters you have thoughout the game... most of the axe beaks are purple, as are the first ones encountered, and Ziz themselves are primarily Blue. That leaves the black and Yellow ones to figure out... The yellow one seems to be the one that falls all over the place. There are black pelicans, and then with the yellow one.... There's yellow Ziz, yellow Pelicans... The yellow one is the one that's really mucking up the whole species....