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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    also, if it isnt an accomplishemnt, why are you so bent on stopping 50s from obtaining it easier then a 30?

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    if it isnt important, if it isnt an accomplishment, why do you even care if a 50 gets it easier then a 30?
    I want to make it difficult for a rank 50 to get rank 30 raid gear so that rank 30 raid gear becomes an accomplishment.

    Raid dungeons are supposed to be hard. If they are not hard, they have no meaning. If they are hard, and if they hard to everyone equally, regardless of what rank you are, then all the raid gear rewards become an accomplishment, not just the rank 50 raid gear.

    If the raid content is easy, then the prestige of earning raid gear and the satisfaction and perceived value of that gear is diminished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    I want to make it difficult for a rank 50 to get rank 30 raid gear so that rank 30 raid gear becomes an accomplishment.

    Raid dungeons are supposed to be hard. If they are not hard, they have no meaning. If they are hard, and if they hard to everyone equally, regardless of what rank you are, then all the raid gear rewards become an accomplishment, not just the rank 30 raid gear.

    If the raid content is easy, then the prestige of earning raid gear and the satisfaction and perceived value of that gear is diminished.
    then make it an accomplishemtn for you, no one is going to stop you from doing that

    you are putting too much into caring about what other people do

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    then make it an accomplishemtn for you, no one is going to stop you from doing that
    I'm not going to run the R30 dungeon as a rank 30 if I don't have to. That would be silly. I'm going to run it as my rank 50 char, just like everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    you are putting too much into caring about what other people do
    That's because I'm thinking from the perspective of game design, not from the perspective of a player. Sometimes what the players think they want is not always the best thing for them.

    I want all the raid items to have worth and meaning. I want them to be a significant and meaningful reward that acts as a reminder of all the hard work a player has done.

    I want the R30 dungeon content to last longer than 2 weeks, since any content that is too easy quickly becomes boring. The longer each individual piece of content stays fresh in the players' minds, the longer I can spend developing new content and not having to rush it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    I'm not going to run the R30 dungeon as a rank 30 if I don't have to. That would be silly. I'm going to run it as my rank 50 char, just like everyone else.


    That's because I'm thinking from the perspective of game design, not from the perspective of a player. Sometimes what the players think they want is not always the best thing for them.

    I want all the raid items to have worth and meaning. I want them to be a significant and meaningful reward that acts as a reminder of all the hard work a player has done.

    I want the R30 dungeon content to last longer than 2 weeks, since any content that is too easy quickly becomes boring. The longer each individual piece of content stays fresh in the players' minds, the longer I can spend developing new content and not having to rush it out.
    so youll do it at 50 because you can?

    and that would be your right, no one would stop you from doing that

    but what happens if you friends dont want you on a 50? they want you on a 30 character, would you go down to 30 to do it? or would you tell them to F off?
    i personaly would use the character appropriate to the group, and id be very happy to have the CHOICE to do so


    the r30 content again, is just that, r30 content, its nto meant to last as long as r50 content, why do you think yoshi is mentioning the hard r50 boss which people are going to have to figure out, and nothing about the r30 dungeon?

    cuz guess what, the r30 dungeon is FILLER not meant to keep you occupied over and over and over, thats the r50 dungeons job

    the r30 dungeon is filler til you get to the r50