Holmgang useless?

[Kuwagami]

for the most part, you can't die while using holmgang. it buys you 6 seconds for healers to heal you.

ie, about to eat a big hit at dangerously low health? holmgang that and block with yo face like a boss.

Cad can kill you nevertheless. I think twintania ravages you too, I might test someday to confirm. In a général manner, pretty everyboss that doesn't care about the root can kill you through your "invincibilty".

Poped Holm and stood still for the 6 seconds for a DPS to get a LB level 2 off to kill a cad in turn 1 that was at 7 stacks for the win. It def has its uses.

Same as above ^^ You just had awesome healers (btw, my Static just ravaged cad through enrage way as due to a derp, the split happened at 3 statck and the healers had too much to do to let me live. Our paladin kitted it until the last 30%, then poped hallowed ground and we ravaged it like hell, with WHM spamming stoneskin and scholar spamming adlo

Not a warrior, but my raid's warrior was able to do 8 stacks in T2, only to be outshone by our PLD that did 10 stacks for T2 too

Although it's not prefect but it's still very useful in a "oh shit" time.

T2 can go to 8 stacks max. Also, unless you eat the fire star from the 3rd node (or maybe the pacman, never took this way), every iL80+ tank can survive at 8 stack. even with only 2 healers.

Its useful for turn 4 when things go to hell and oh do they... go to hell. Especially when your off tanking phase 5-6 transition when all those adds drop and the healers can't give you their attention.

Actually this. The only situation I use holmgang out of WP 2nd boss is in T4 phase 6, because we use the "burn dread" method. I have 2 sets of soldier/knight wanting to burn me down, so I begin with all my CD (vengeance, then bloodbath+foresight+conval), and after it I pop holmgang on an untouched soldier the time for my healers to get me up. By the time, the rook is dead, the bugs fed and at least one set is dead as well. The rest is easy part