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  1. #121
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    Buklohn's Avatar
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    Reis Falz
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    Lancer Lv 50
    vs this you mean?



    or this guy?



    or this chick?

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    Last edited by Buklohn; 03-11-2014 at 05:17 PM.

  2. #122
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    Lusavari's Avatar
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    Vesperlyn Hayle
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Scythes have become increasingly popular in video games. Also, they were an actual weapon used by certain tribes in India. That's where the XI Zhagnals originated.

    I'd rather see Great Swords go to a Rune Fencer type job. Dark Knights should return with Scythes and their base job being Reaper.

    Also, Have any of you played Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen? You will learn to fear the Reaper, as any scythe swings that connect are instant death.

    Also, I think Sice from Type-0 is SE's nod to trying to get more scythes and weapon varieties into the series. Also any one arguing that farming tools are not weapons... Most weapons throughout history started off as a farming tool... It's even in the MRD story line when the guild receptionist tells you the history of the guild that the MRDs used axes to build their ships, and just kept using them as weapons because it made boarding actions easier.
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  3. #123
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    Vesperlyn Hayle
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Oh, and let's throw out another VERY popular Scythe User from the SE's library...



    And in honor of Dark Souls II coming out....



    And the most recent DMC... Even if you didn't play it, the scythe was an amazing weapon.



    And from Star Ocean 4, another SE franchise

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    Last edited by Lusavari; 03-11-2014 at 06:08 PM.

  4. #124
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Buklohn View Post
    vs this you mean?



    or this guy?



    or this chick?

    With all due respect, do any of those characters look like Dark Knights?
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  5. #125
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    Vesperlyn Hayle
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Dante in devil mode up top does~

    Also, Sice's moveset in Type-0 is meant to resemble a Dark Knight's. Her weapon builds power with each kill she makes and last until she takes a hit. She also uses several dark based spells. Saying Sice doesn't represent a Dark Knight is like saying Nine doesn't represent a Dragoon because he also wears a school uniform, though he uses a spear and jumps.
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  6. #126
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    Jaykos Molkot
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    vs this guy the manliest man of them all. A real mans man.



    cant forget this



    or this

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  7. #127
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    Clive Hawkins
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I'd prefer a Scythe but I think Dark Knight would fit best in its own brand new "two handed sword class" in FFXIV:

    Not a fan of this idea:

    Base Class: Gladiator
    Weapon: Sword and Shield
    Role: Tank

    Would work just fine:
    Base Class: Lancer
    Weapon: Scythe
    Role: DPS
    (Get's Blood for Blood as Lancer too)

    What I would vote for:
    Base Class: Swordsman
    Weapon: Greatswords
    Role: DPS or Tank
    (Can also place Samurai in the Swordsman class and make one or the other a Tank.)

    FFXI was the first FF game to give Dark Knights not only Scythes but Greatswords as well (wasn't it?) Not sure what the hatred towards FFXI is for then. You hate it for giving them Scythes? Yet its also the game that gave them your beloved Greatsword.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 03-11-2014 at 06:27 PM.

  8. #128
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    Vesperlyn Hayle
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    Not to mention Zeid, the main representative of Dark Knights used a Great Sword, and you had to use one to unlock the job.

    That aside, I'd rather see DRK stem from a new class entirely. I'd rather see it as a hybrid Melee/Magic user. In 1.0 THM had a LOT of spells that we don't have anymore, but back when everything was more free form, I made use of a lot of those spells on MRD like Absorb VIT and STR. But you can't make all of those individual spells... You'd need spells merged to make it work. But Absorb STR at least should make return. Debuff to help tank, buff on Dark Knight.

    Dark Knight should be able to put it's own HP into attacks, but be capable of recovering HP without annoying a healer. The base class should get spells like Drain, while the Job abilities are things like Soul Eater.
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  9. #129
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Scythe, no question. One of the most badass weapons out there.
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  10. #130
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Dante in devil mode up top does~

    Also, Sice's moveset in Type-0 is meant to resemble a Dark Knight's. Her weapon builds power with each kill she makes and last until she takes a hit. She also uses several dark based spells. Saying Sice doesn't represent a Dark Knight is like saying Nine doesn't represent a Dragoon because he also wears a school uniform, though he uses a spear and jumps.
    My issue is that the iconic feel/ look of the class dose not correlate or in my opinion dose not compare to the more traditional Final Fantasy Dark Knight.

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