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  1. #21
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    Downdrop's Avatar
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    Kitten Claws
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    @ColorOfSakura - I also agree about that being an awesome solution.

    @Gelesto - I'm a WHM or SCH depending on my mood, I'm already trying to help out. Eventually I will get around to playing a tank, but my becoming a tank does not solve the larger problem at hand since unless something is actually done about tanks bailing duty finder then this sort of behavior is going to become more commonplace then it already is.
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  2. #22
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You're only curbing bad behavior and not giving additional incentive for the tanks to do something the tank doesn't like/want to do if you only choose to use penalties. Sure the tanks get bonuses already, but if they were enough incentive then the tank would not care about choosing to run the dungeon.

    Obviously the incentives given already are not enough to curb the poor behavior. I've been DPS who queued into Aurum Vale from Low Level Duty Roulette only for the whole entire group to leave. Some times, you just have to deal with the fact that some bonuses won't make up for the shortcomings of running certain dungeons.
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  3. #23
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    There are some tanks that try to get in progress dungeons in order to grind out tomes faster. However, that is a result of there being so few tanks. If there were more balance between tanks, healers, and dps, no one would think to do that. Its the current situation that allows them to cycle dungeons so quickly that is the issue.

    However, to add harsh penalties for a specific role just for not hitting the accept button is simply not fair to the vast majority of players who take up that role. A lot of players who are playing tanks did not originally want to play that role, but took up that role to help others get through stuff. The change would ultimately target the wrong players. It would be far better to find a long term solution to the tank shortage by making it more interesting to players or increasing the responsibility of dps in a fight to match the level of responsibility of tanks so there would be more balance between the three roles.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 03-11-2014 at 06:19 AM.

  4. #24
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I like how the first response is always "roll a tank." Ok, sure, but what about people who already have both tank classes maxed and are actively trying to level DPS or heals? You can't level another job while on tank, so "rolling a tank" doesn't solve the overall problem.
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  5. #25
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Make the leave penalty equal to time left in the instance minus time spent in queue. Problem solved. If u afk and get auto-afk-kicked, u still get the penalty. If u try forcing ur teammates to kick u - one month ban.
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  6. #26
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    tl;dr version
    OP: Tanks dropping out of party because they got rouletted to unwanted dungeon, put a harsher penalty on tanks so we can all wait five times as long in DF queue.



    Dunno about your data center... but on mine, tanks queue in progress main scenario/low/high level dungeons. Don't see them as much in trials but the ones on roulettes are easy to replace.
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  7. #27
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    Illumina Panic
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by IzumiRaito View Post
    If u try forcing ur teammates to kick u - one month ban.
    Just couldn't hold back a laugh at this idea.
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  8. #28
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Apply it to everyone or apply it to no one.
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  9. #29
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    Wild Galax
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    just got a tank to 50, such a joke easy, by just spamming df.
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  10. #30
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    Leysritt Kakul
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    Masamune
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Just want to point out your idea will never get considered by developers the moment you start discriminating against tank jobs only. Such a based idea of having harsher penalties against a specific role will never fly and kick off, or get approved by the management at Square Enix.

    The next time you want to suggest such an idea, perhaps disguise it under the pretense of a having harsher penalties for "everyone" that abandon duties right at the start. That might work.

    Maybe.
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