SE just copy FFXI in FFXIV

[Jaide]

For people who don't want FFXI-2, there are plenty of other casual non-Final Fantasy MMOs out there to play. FFXI basically took everything from the classic Final Fantasy games and made it online so you could play with your friends. FFXIV took everything that was Final Fantasy about FFXI and threw it in the trash. If they built FFXI-2 and ran it simultaneously with FFXIV, we could compare the subscriber numbers and see what people really want.

... and as far as total subscriber numbers go, I'd MUCH rather have a challenging game with 200k subs than one that is dumbed down in an attempt to draw in the other 6 million people that prefer single player games and don't have time to play an MMO.

[Reinheart]

Does it have to be XI? Can we ruin one of the others, FFVII-2 Online!!!

I support that on sooooo many levels.

Mostly the "ruin", just so we're clear.

I would like to see that... but dunno if I can handle bunch of emo-tards talking/walking next to Cloud if the original FFVII characters exist in the MMO Version lol. Add cloud/sephiroth hairstyle you know you gonna get 50% with that hair style character...

SE needs revenue to fix XIV? Remake the damn FFVII on PS3 like they showed off the tech demo... damn it

[VeranRamaden]

loved XI, but I want a new game. I just want XIV to play on the strengths of XI, not copy it.
Evolve, that's the word. XI was amazing, but lets get XIV even better. ^^

[Rydin]

there are 2 sides to every argument

On one hand... SE was going for a much bigger player base than FFXI... and lets be honest, reskining a game that has dwindling player base does not increase the population...
As big as world of Warcraft was (12 million sold), Cataclysm did under 4 milllion... thats still incredible numbers but what do you think would happen to a game that was doing less than a half a million? The truth is, a reskinned FFXI would have done even lower numbers than the original and pleased a small handful of people

On the other hand, there are numerous systems from FFXI that should have, at the very least, been integrated into this game.... They didn't even need to copy/paste them, but just something like them....
But you know what? I felt like they didn't ignore FFXI... they were just so rushed, they never got time to put that stuff in....
Kind of like if you're rushing to pack for vacation and you miss a few things....
Well SE missed a lot in the big move.... from /assist to LS commands...

So instead of arguing about what should have been, and in fact arguing 2 completely different things.... Lets try to move forward amicably

[Onidemon]

Because they've killed off ffxi. I did go back after playing 14.. and its just not the same. Its too damn easy. Hell, its worse than ffxiv.

And no one wants a 1:1 clone. They want the class system, party system, AH, zone/species variety, lore, quests, mog houses, everything that made ffxi great. Not some crap armory system and a game designed to be easy, bland, and boring.

And if you've been paying attention, SE has invested a ton of money and has much less than a 200k playerbase and has admitted that the game is junk. Will it ever recover? Not in its current state. People want what made them stick around and play ffxi for years. You can say "well alot of people in this thread said they don't want ffxi-2"...

But look at the server populations, most of the people that wanted that left because they saw how far removed from anything good this game is. They are very few of us left here, most have given up on the project. Soon this forum will be nothing but people who "love the game" in its current state, and that will be the end.

You say people want what made FFXI great but you're completely wrong. People don't want that, YOU and a few FFXI fans want it. SE doesn't want you or whoever quit FFXI to play FFXIV, they couldn't care less. They want the MILLION of people out there playing WOW and other MMOs.

FFXI does not appeal to any of these players, because if it did they would have been playing it a long time ago. FFXI had some cool features it's true but SE is trying to make something DIFFERENT then FFXI and keep FFXI running too. Do you really think that they should run 2 games with the same features? How does that make any sense?

SE needs to fix FFXIV and make it great and UNIQUE. That's what going to appeal to the million of people out there. They couldn't care less for FFXI or a mog house just like SE couldn't care less for FFXI's minority crowd. They can make the game great in it's own way, while offering a new experience.

[khrome]

FFXI-2 is the only way to save this game atm.Imho.

[Rydin]

FFXI-2 is the only way to save this game atm.Imho.

I think it would be a last ditch effort... A white flag, if you will
In their eyes they can still appeal to the huge console FF playerbase...
Stay the course.... improve the game and pray for a good Famitsu score come PS3

[Reinheart]

I think it would be a last ditch effort... A white flag, if you will
In their eyes they can still appeal to the huge console FF playerbase...
Stay the course.... improve the game and pray for a good Famitsu score come PS3

Don't trust Famitsu score... I noticed they go by business partners... rather trust Yahoo reviews and stuff from actual player scores.

Honestly think Famitsu (now) is getting paid for posting awesome reviews sometimes on crappy game for sales. Notice how they got quiet along with Dengeki after all the reports on how awesome FFXIV is in the interview prior to release? w

[Rydin]

Don't trust Famitsu score... I noticed they go by business partners... rather trust Yahoo reviews and stuff from actual player scores.

Honestly think Famitsu (now) is getting paid for posting awesome reviews sometimes on crappy game for sales. Notice how they got quiet along with Dengeki after all the reports on how awesome FFXIV is in the interview prior to release? w

I don't trust any review sites... Im just saying Famitsu shows SE love and that in turn influences successful launches

[Dreamer]

Lots are, I am -- but it's the case in point they should have taken the bsics from XI built from it like everyone assumed they would. What was wrong with typing "/sea all (name/job)" or /sea inv (level range)? Absolutely nothing.

This is EXACTLY what's wrong. You're so used to how FFXI does it that you don't consider other ways to do it. City of Heroes' search system is far, FAR better than FFXI's version in almost every way. Yet everybody is scream for /sea instead.

Regardless of how they incorporate it, I just hope they give us a way to be invis/anonymous. Getting random tells and invites when you're doing other things is extremely annoying.