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  1. #61
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    It's a so restricted function's game.

    With a Drag & Drop, Click & Wheel interface, better skinning interface, allow the use of "addons" to show some more thing on the window screen, i wish i could be able to see my arrows/money/etc... left without going into the menu to see it and so more.
    Allow Keybind, show the 3 buttons bars at the same time.


    rhythm game
    At this point i'm totally agree with you. it's missing some rythme, but FFXIV is not designed like that
    take the graphical effect and battle rythm from FFXIII, they are beautiful, i mean, cure is like throwing a salve to your mate. The rythme also was speed but you where able to choose more slowly what you want to use.
    I hope the third MMO from SE will be something like that !


    FFXI is old, abyssea fun, easy, but still fun. We are in 2011, a ton of new MMO choosed Free to play because their game suck, they wanted to innovate and fail, if FFXI was released this years, it should have been one of thoses MMO that's fail at the release (like FFXIV), the best way to keep member is to do the same as the AAA MMO but with some news things without going to far ~
    FFXIV, have the graphical, the story, the craft system, everything else should just be revamp.

    I don't blame Square Enix, even if FFXIV is not so good, there's still some nice thing that deserve to be seen.
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    Il est possible de dépassé la limite des 1ooo caractères, il suffit d'éditer son post ~

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    This is EXACTLY what's wrong. You're so used to how FFXI does it that you don't consider other ways to do it. City of Heroes' search system is far, FAR better than FFXI's version in almost every way. Yet everybody is scream for /sea instead.

    Regardless of how they incorporate it, I just hope they give us a way to be invis/anonymous. Getting random tells and invites when you're doing other things is extremely annoying.
    I've played XI off and on for the total of 9 years, however I've played RO consistently for 5 -- which would mean in reality I'm more used to how RO does things than I am FFXI. It's merely common sense that if both games are titled Final Fantasy and both are built by the same company which also employs the same development team for both projects and had the same director and producer you'll logically assume they would have built off of the basics, which has been proven to work or XI wouldn't exist today.

    XI's search system was basic -- which means for FFXIV they could have incorporated it and as I said built from it which means making it better. Instead they went the route of making almost everything worse. I've also played:

    Lineage
    Lineage II
    Knight Online
    Kal Online
    WoW
    TERA
    Rift
    Rappelz
    Iris
    Lucent Hearts

    So I'm pretty sure I've been exposed to plenty of "other ways to do it", but none of those games are by the same company and same development team.
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  4. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I've played XI off and on for the total of 9 years, however I've played RO consistently for 5 -- which would mean in reality I'm more used to how RO does things than I am FFXI. It's merely common sense that if both games are titled Final Fantasy and both are built by the same company which also employs the same development team for both projects and had the same director and producer you'll logically assume they would have built off of the basics, which has been proven to work or XI wouldn't exist today.

    XI's search system was basic -- which means for FFXIV they could have incorporated it and as I said built from it which means making it better. Instead they went the route of making almost everything worse. I've also played:

    Lineage
    Lineage II
    Knight Online
    Kal Online
    WoW
    TERA
    Rift
    Rappelz
    Iris
    Lucent Hearts

    So I'm pretty sure I've been exposed to plenty of "other ways to do it", but none of those games are by the same company and same development team.
    Wow, another great post!
    I too hear ppl say that such and such did this better, MW vs AH ect ect but this is FF by SE and its in line after XI by the same company so you would think it would follow in the foot steps of their own. It should not be "lets see a search/ah/combat style comparable to wow" but one that is like XI's, because XIV is the predecessor to that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikyo View Post
    Wow, another great post!
    I too hear ppl say that such and such did this better, MW vs AH ect ect but this is FF by SE and its in line after XI by the same company so you would think it would follow in the foot steps of their own. It should not be "lets see a search/ah/combat style comparable to wow" but one that is like XI's, because XIV is the predecessor to that game.
    I agree that there are things this game could have learned from... but not just because its an SE title... or a numbered FF game
    VII was unlike VIII which was unlike IX and so on....
    FFX didn't even have levels....
    So FFXIV needs LS management options, assist commands, a command to see the people in a region...
    whether they use FFXI's model or not, these things are needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I agree that there are things this game could have learned from... but not just because its an SE title... or a numbered FF game
    VII was unlike VIII which was unlike IX and so on....
    FFX didn't even have levels....
    So FFXIV needs LS management options, assist commands, a command to see the people in a region...
    whether they use FFXI's model or not, these things are needed
    I bolded the important part. S-E can stand to learn from not just FFXI but all FF games, from the Chrono games, from Dragon Quest, Vagrant Story, and their other titles. They can learn a lot from WoW and EVE and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes too.

    S-E could've learned from a lot. Instead they put their head in the sand when they made FFXIV.

    When Yoshida was put in charge, I was hopeful: here's a guy who has played a ton of games.

    Now let's just hope he's allowed to apply his experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I agree that there are things this game could have learned from... but not just because its an SE title... or a numbered FF game
    VII was unlike VIII which was unlike IX and so on....
    FFX didn't even have levels....
    So FFXIV needs LS management options, assist commands, a command to see the people in a region...
    whether they use FFXI's model or not, these things are needed
    The comaparisons to XI are rather obvious because it like XIV are their MMORPG titles O.o;

    Loved FFX, FFT/A-2,FFII,FFIII but were not talking about the LS Management system from thoes game because.... there wasnt one.

    I agree, it doesnt have to be just like XI's just using XI as a jumping point and saying the systems in it were functional at the very least you can give XI that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikyo View Post
    The comaparisons to XI are rather obvious because it like XIV are their MMORPG titles O.o;

    Loved FFX, FFT/A-2,FFII,FFIII but were not talking about the LS Management system from thoes game because.... there wasnt one.

    I agree, it doesnt have to be just like XI's just using XI as a jumping point and saying the systems in it were functional at the very least you can give XI that.
    Tactics didn't have linkshell management but it did have clan management. I wouldn't mind seeing the clan management screen make a return in FFXIV.
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    fine then, go back to FFXI and play that then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abnar View Post
    Players will never be satisfied because they all have played FFXI. We just need a copy of FFXI with better graphic. Nothing to add.
    Do not worry sir, they are SLOWLY accomplishing this task for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    fine then, go back to FFXI and play that then.
    OOOHHH, chick went hard right there!
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