Dark Knight - Great Sword or Great Scythe poll

[Gospel]

Pretty sure Dark Knight uses a utility belt.

[SuperPaladin]

Oh I know! Make a greatsword that's transformable to a scythe!


Now, scythes are more symbolic than they are practical (though they are indeed practical in battle) so I'll take them for the dark knight any time.

also, this guy was totally cool:

[Phe]

gunscythe.

[Doo]

We will ALL want different things out of red mage, SE
will not be able to please everyone.

You can't but if you make it into a generic dd, it will please most.

gunscythe.

Awesome!

[Musashidon]

I'm sorry but this statement is not true. Its ok if you dont like the fact it has support stuff, but
the job has had support stuff since FF1. nulspells, protect, silence, focus, confuse, haste, hold
sleep, sleepra, slow, slowra, temper ..... come on, the first FF game, and you want to tell me
it never had support stuff.

the bad thing about this is, blm and whm do not have access to alot of these skills. which would be the whole point. rdm can only use whm and blm spells.

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

Scythe please. And lol @ people saying a farmers tool can't be a weapon in a friggin fantasy game. This is fantasy people!!

[Jonjon]

Scythe please. And lol @ people saying a farmers tool can't be a weapon in a friggin fantasy game. This is fantasy people!!

The difference between Genius's Kendama in this context is that it was not intended to be a weapon. It was used as a tool for him to keep his concentration and focus while casting his Artes.
The Dark Knight weapon should be a sword one hand or two is fine.

[Esmian]

Dark Knight was one of the more unique classes where sacrifices were the whole point of the class..why do you think Cecil cleansed himself to become a Paladin?

Probably because he kept wasting his HP on attacks only slightly better than his auto-attack and was pissing his healers off.

[Gamemako]

My point is that Kain also had access to shields.

And swords and axes if you were so inclined.

It is rather convenient to say that Dark Knight should use a sword and shield based off of Cecil, but leave out that Dragoon should also be using a shield and a lance.

There's just so many things wrong with this. Kain is not as important to dragoons as Cecil is to Dark Knights. In FF2, Dark Knight was just a name; in FF3, it was a knight job with white magic and not really a Dark Knight at all. Cecil was what defined Dark Knight for the series. Dragoons as spear-wielding warriors showed up FF2 and got Jump in FF3, pretty well solidifying their development. Kain in FF4 was a chip off the old block; Cecil was a trendsetter. By now, Dragoons have a long history of forgoing the shield; Cid, Ward, Freya, Kimahri, TA, TA2 all cannot equip shields.

Tell me if im wrong, but wasn't the skill Cover not affected by shield strength in FF4?

Not in the initial release, at least.

But one thing alot of people forget is that we need more classes. A Greatsword wielding, Dark Knight becoming class/job would be welcome. The last thing we need is a sword and shield using class/job like gladiator or paladin as I don't think many would like it if they already had Dark Knight to 50.

The last thing we need is yet another junk melee DPS class built to take advantage of a weapon suited to other uses.

I'm sorry but this statement is not true. Its ok if you dont like the fact it has support stuff, but
the job has had support stuff since FF1. nulspells, protect, silence, focus, confuse, haste, hold
sleep, sleepra, slow, slowra, temper ..... come on, the first FF game, and you want to tell me
it never had support stuff.

Except that all of them were merely inherited from Black Mage and White Mage. They were rarely used at all, let alone were they featured on Red Mage. Meanwhile, Red Mage attack spells did just as much damage as those cast by their pure-mage counterparts. But let's continue to say what Red Mage actually has a history of doing. In FF3, it just kind of sucked, and in FF5, it earned the Doublecast ability for the express purpose of nuking. In 12i, it could wield a greatsword and use the second-most powerful nuke (Ardor is second after Scathe, which is unique to Black Mages). In TA/TA2, it retained doublecast for nuking. This is not "a support job" and never has been except in landfill-fodder FF11.

Like I said, RDM has a polarizing effect, and you obviously want to hold onto a rdm that might be different than what others want. We will ALL want different things out of red mage, SE
will not be able to please everyone.

I don't think you understand. The portion of people who want or would be anything other than exceedingly annoyed by FF11 RDM are a tiny portion of the player population. You can't please everyone, but you sure can please the vast majority.

[Legend_]

I can't vote because I want both.

Just bring Dark knight already I promise to sub 2 years in advance.