Dark Knight - Great Sword or Great Scythe poll

[Gamemako]

Dark Knights deserve to have a Greatsword. I could understand the want for a scythe, but honestly, it seems as though people forget that Deathbringer (a greatsword) is the signature weapon of a Dark Knight.

Deathbringer is not a greatsword except in FF11. In FF4, its first use, it was a one-handed weapon (like all of Cecil's weapons). FFX, it was a customization for Tidus, again being one-handed. In FF12, one-handed sword (though there were no dark knights).

//EDIT 2: People don't seem to realize how much FF11 changed about Final Fantasy. Consider this:

RDM will ALWAYS be very polarizing to people. Some like the support stuff (buffs enfeebs)

Q: In what iteration of Final Fantasy does Red Mage feature buffs and debuffs?
A: None of them except FF11.

//EDIT: Also,

Wonder how many people who say "Scythes are not weapons" ignore pretty much every iteration of 'Death' wielding one and it being one of the better two handed weapons in JRPGs at least next to Polearms.

Read the thread. It has already been explained that THE GRIM REAPER DOES NOT USE THAT SCYTHE FOR COMBAT.

[Doo]

You're right, the only spells Black Mage has ever used were Fire, Thunder and Blizzard. They never had debuffs, buffs or other elemental magic. Summoner also dealt 99% of its damage by melee attacks and debuffs, their summons were only vanity at best.



Which is pure irony considering the way you feel about Dark and consider Black Mage and Summoner "not ruined."

Blm lack spells and elemental wheel dmg.
Smn became some gimp dot damage dealer that mainly uses one primal that looks more like a Pokemon.
Brd turned into some gimp version of ranger.

And some how FFXI ruined classic jobs.

[RoninDarkchild]

Scythe all the way!

[Riastrad]

Deathbringer is not a greatsword except in FF11. In FF4, its first use, it was a one-handed weapon (like all of Cecil's weapons). FFX, it was a customization for Tidus, again being one-handed. In FF12, one-handed sword (though there were no dark knights).

//EDIT: Also,



Read the thread. It has already been explained that THE GRIM REAPER DOES NOT USE THAT SCYTHE FOR COMBAT.

By that logic then Kain (also from FF4) only used javelins and not lances. Cecil had acces to shields, this is true. But as a dark Knight, did he ever use his shield for anything more than a token defence animation? His shield only really had any effect as a Paladin.

Im sure the dev team will see things this way. Besides, Anyone who played during 1.0 will know that the *hero* character had a greatsword (though he did also uses a bow for most of it) on his back in the trailer for the game. Its past time we got our hands on one ourselves.

[Tanama]

The more Yoshida strays from FFXI's absolutely terrible, heavily unbalanced job system the better FFXIV will be.

My vote goes to Sword as Cecil Harvey and Goffard Gaffgarion used them.

[Tupsi]

The more Yoshida strays from FFXI's absolutely terrible, heavily unbalanced job system the better FFXIV will be.

Instead, the more he strays from Final Fantasy in general and gives us basically a generic MMORPG with a FF Texture pack.

[Naunet]

Then we don't need Dark Knight. The whole gimmick of Dark Knight is sacrificing HP for damaging attacks, and you don't want your tanks sacrificing their HP.

What if you turned the concept on its head into sacrificing enemy HP for defense?

People shouldn't get so stuck in "This class/job has been this way in Final Fantasy and so it must be forever and ever and ever and always!"

[Rissy]

What if you turned the concept on its head into sacrificing enemy HP for defense?

That's called a Warrior in this game~

[Tupsi]

What if you turned the concept on its head into sacrificing enemy HP for defense?

People shouldn't get so stuck in "This class/job has been this way in Final Fantasy and so it must be forever and ever and ever and always!"

Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn.

Twisting stuff around is why this MMO is nothing but a generic MMORPG with FF elements. You're right though, Black Mage should be a healer and Conjurer/White Mage should be the tank or debuffer..I mean, let's switch stuff around for the sake of switching. Dark Knight was one of the more unique classes where sacrifices were the whole point of the class..why do you think Cecil cleansed himself to become a Paladin? Paladin and Dark Knight are polar opposites in the Final Fantasy Mythos - One is about protection and divine magic, the other is about death and destruction even if said destruction is of yourself to kill your enemies.

That's called a Warrior in this game~

Also this - You got them getting away from Final Fantasy, as per your wishes.

[Riastrad]

That's called a Warrior in this game~

Beat me to it. lol