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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kluya15 View Post
    Or people could not have the mindset of a 4 year old. The names they used are perfectly fine. Sorry they didn't call the nations grassland, hot town and the beach. I suppose you'd want Paladins named metal sword guys and Internal release to be called get stronger
    I was trying to make some valid common sense points here, there's no reason for you guys to jump on me like this. Internal Release could easily have been named something like "Chi Release", "Mind over Body" or any number of things. But no, their English team made the decision to name it something that sounds a little dirty to a lot of people.

    Adloquium is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I can spell it and pronounce it, but I never seem to encounter other people who can. My own FC scholars just call it "aldu" which isn't even a proper abbreviation. So that forces me to ask the question, Did they really need to use such a fancy and unusual word for such a major job defining ability?

    Gaol; I am sorry, I didn't realize they were targeting this game at Gaelic people. Sorry, my mistake. Common sense tells me that setting my language to English would provide me with modern English spelled words, not Gaelic. Sorry, my mistake I guess.

    Another topic going on these boards lately is the subject of Brayflox's gender. The English team for this game made it very clear that Brayflox was a male goblin. Now, six months after launch, they have suddenly told us that he is actually female and that they will be apparently correcting all of the quest text that refers to him in the male sense.

    And then there is this matter of these clearly incorrectly named caster weapons discussed in this topic.

    From my point of view, it seems like the English team for FFXIV have made a number of errors, both big and small. I am not mad at them for it, but I would appreciate it if they would acknowledge and correct these errors and try to show a little more common sense in the future. Changing the Adloquium buff effect from "adloquium" to "Galvanize" seems like a good idea to me, but I have to wonder why they didn't rename the main spell as well.

    While still on the subject of Naming, another pet peeve I have had since launch has been the naming of Arcanist abilities. Right from the start, the Arcanist guild explains to you that they are mathematical spell casters, and that they fight with "geometric magic". So that makes me wonder why all of my spells have necromancer style names: Virus, Miasma, Disease, Shadowflare, Fester, etc. At least Bio and Ruin are traditional FF spells, but it seems to me that the Arcanist spells should use mathematical terms. Tangent, Vertex, Root, and so on.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Adloquium is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I can spell it and pronounce it, but I never seem to encounter other people who can. My own FC scholars just call it "aldu" which isn't even a proper abbreviation. So that forces me to ask the question, Did they really need to use such a fancy and unusual word for such a major job defining ability?
    The game is 18+ and implied everyone had a high school education. If you can't read or even think that people shouldn't use larger English words, then please uninstall your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    The game is 18+ and implied everyone had a high school education. If you can't read or even think that people shouldn't use larger English words, then please uninstall your game.
    The game is "T" for teen.

    "Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older."
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    While still on the subject of Naming, another pet peeve I have had since launch has been the naming of Arcanist abilities. Right from the start, the Arcanist guild explains to you that they are mathematical spell casters, and that they fight with "geometric magic". So that makes me wonder why all of my spells have necromancer style names: Virus, Miasma, Disease, Shadowflare, Fester, etc. At least Bio and Ruin are traditional FF spells, but it seems to me that the Arcanist spells should use mathematical terms. Tangent, Vertex, Root, and so on.
    It was originally supposed be a magic trap class that deployed traps based on geometric shapes before it got a summoner class shoved on to it for no reason, they also retrofitted a DoT class on to it, all this while still keeping the lore that was already established by the old team though never actually fully implemented in the game. You can still see remnants of what one of their old abilities could have been like in the last Arcanist quest with the AoE that reduces damage taken, some could argue it's foreshadowing Sacred Soil and Scholar but it also contradicts all their lore, so they most likely also reused the old 1.0 questline too, which is fine if they would have kept their old mechanics.
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    Ballad and Crimson crowns, yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
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    Actually fan service means seeing ELEMENTS from the FF universe. Lore is game-specific, but it seems people are confusing lore with elements. Elements arethe objects themselves, while lore explains where they come from or how they are used.

    Assuming the thread subject, the FFIII element would be a weapon called the omnirod, while the FFXIV lore explains which class it is for. If the devs were indeed going to incorporate the story/ lore of another FF game (say FFIII), then you wouldn't be playing FFXIV, you'd be playing FFIII-2. Sounds odd, I know, but FF games are mutually exclusive which means, outside of direct sequels, they can be played in any order. This wouldnt be true if lore carried over, only elements of the universe.
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    I always thought something was off about those two weapons. Now I know why. It's been ages since I played FFIII tho so I never would have picked up on it.
    It should be changed imo but, I doubt they will.
    I agree with the elements part of what you're saying Velox, but FF games are well known for using the same weapons from previous games, why they decided to switch up FFIII's Omnirod/Elder Staff in FFXIV? Who knows. I just hope they don't do anything else stupid like make the Masamune a spear or the Excalibur a WHM wand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FantasyForever View Post
    I agree with the elements part of what you're saying Velox, but FF games are well known for using the same weapons from previous games, why they decided to switch up FFIII's Omnirod/Elder Staff in FFXIV? Who knows. I just hope they don't do anything else stupid like make the Masamune a spear or the Excalibur a WHM wand.
    Those differences are extremely different from switching two mage weapons around. There is also barely anything stupid about the change. The weapons appeared in 1 game unlike other Iconic weapons. There is no real lore to go off of so the development team have creative licensing to do what ever the hell they wanted with them. FFXIV Lore says that the Omni Rod is a Healer weapon and the Elder Staff is an DPS weapon. There is not enough info to dispute it based on lore because its only ever been in one other game. They weren't reoccuring weapons, just vague recalls to an older game that a lot of other players would not have cared about.
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    Ragnarok is pretty much the only weapon that can get away with being different things, technically also Save the Queen because it's been a whip and a staff too, the rest have been pretty consistent but as you see in this thread some modern fans just care about defending every small oversight the current game they're invested in makes rather than for the franchise itself as a whole.
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    To be fair, based on how many people that play this game wants SE to move Final Fantasy XIV away from Final Fantasy, I guess no error was made beyond using names that existed in FF before.
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