DEV Team Please adjust ilvl requirement for The Lost City of Amdapor. Pharos all over

[Gilraen]

maybe philotomes still drops but new dungeon drops ilvl 70 gears haha. or maybe ct gears. more options to get to i80 i guess.

yea maybe for ps watching the video once is enough for me as a healer. maybe u need to watch more if u are a dps or tank. haha

I love the video argument, like virtual experience means anything. You know, there isn't a single profession where watching a video counts as experience. Airlines require pilots to have hundreds of flight hours, real flight hours flying real planes, before they will even look at you. Not a single military organization trains soldiers through video games. A video doesn't show you how you will clear content, just how other people cleared content. A run, be it dungeon or primal, is an organic thing with the different people there with you changing how it plays out. This is why experience is better, you've seen the variations and can adjust accordingly in real time.

[Namasu]

maybe it's because people are tired of that mind set? players should be screwed over because they started later? good one.

Explain to me how they are screwed when myth will be uncapped and they will be able to farm their way to ilvl90 without restriction as soon as they hit lvl50.

Once they do that then they're on the same playing field as everyone at the start of 2.2. What's screwing them over then?

[Nekodar]

Explain to me how they are screwed when myth will be uncapped and they will be able to farm their way to ilvl90 without restriction as soon as they hit lvl50.

Once they do that then they're on the same playing field as everyone at the start of 2.2. What's screwing them over then?

I believe that comment was made against people that WANT the game to screw over people that start later, and are AGAINST how the game actually works.

[Musashidon]

loyal regulars that's been sitting here for 6 months supporting this game and SE with much trust and faith.

sorry i wasn't reply to the whole thing just this comment.

[Arkista]

maybe it's because people are tired of that mind set? players should be screwed over because they started later? good one.

I believe that comment was made against people that WANT the game to screw over people that start later, and are AGAINST how the game actually works.

How does anyone get screwed over if they start late? Because they can't hit level 50 and 10 mins later start farming the highest End Game content available at that time?

Higher ilvl requirements are only going to stop a new player for a few days a week at the most. If someone can't be bothered to spam a few dungeons to get Gear and Tomes to increase their ilvl to do another dungeon then something is wrong. Its not like getting higher ilvl gear is extremely hard to obtain. You're a fresh 50 buy some ilvl70 gear off the MB, Do Crystal Tower, Spam AK/WP for Phil/Myth Tomes.

Why Do people think gearing in this game is hard? Everything is handed to us, You just have to put in the time.

[Musashidon]

How does anyone get screwed over if they start late? Because they can't hit level 50 and 10 mins later start farming the highest End Game content available at that time?

Higher ilvl requirements are only going to stop a new player for a few days a week at the most. If someone can't be bothered to spam a few dungeons to get Gear and Tomes to increase their ilvl to do another dungeon then something is wrong. Its not like getting higher ilvl gear is extremely hard to obtain. You're a fresh 50 buy some ilvl70 gear off the MB, Do Crystal Tower, Spam AK/WP for Phil/Myth Tomes.

Why Do people think gearing in this game is hard? Everything is handed to us, You just have to put in the time.

you seem to have missed my post after that one.

my comment was about her saying someone playing for 6months deserves more then someone who just started. and i feel that is wrong how are you supose to get new players if you ignore them till they become as loyal as others? now i am not saying being loyal means nothing i am just saying someone who has played 6 months is not more important then someone who just started because they can be loyal too, just they started later.

[Doo]

my comment was about her saying someone playing for 6months deserves more then someone who just started. and i feel that is wrong how are you supose to get new players if you ignore them till they become as loyal as others?

Except for that's not deserving more o_O and new players aren't getting ignored since they have a ton of content to do.

[Musashidon]

Except for that's not deserving more o_O and new players aren't getting ignored since they have a ton of content to do.

oh no i wasn't talking about this situation specifically. i just meant that mentality.

[Arkista]

Snip.

You're right a customer is a customer.

But I feel like someone who just starts the game, shouldn't have everything handed to them and play catch up in a few days. Where as it took many of us the last 6 months.

My take on ilvl is that players should have to progress and having higher ilvls on content will do just that. Higher ilvls on content forces players to gear and not bypass certain gear sets and make it obsolete. It doesn't stop anyone for long, it just slows them down. Like I said they can't go back and change the ilvl for current content, But they can apply higher requirements to future content.

New players have it so easy. Everyone already made videos for them (haha). Seriously they do especially when 2.2 hits. I really think that goes for all future players after 2.2, If you think about it every 6 months or every other patch weekly lockouts are removed assuming they follow 2.2. That mean the 2nd best gear(new patch better gear) is that much easier to obtain. So if you are a new player you can climb the ilvl ladder fast and with very little effort. So what is going to take most of us months to do they can do in a week.

[Namasu]

oh no i wasn't talking about this situation specifically. i just meant that mentality.

Understandable but you gotta realize it's more realistic that most players, even the bleeding edge end game players, care about the game development overall. There's very little people that have the mentality of shutting out newbies without giving them a rope to catch up. From what I've seen, the rope is there, they just gotta start pulling to catch up. SE does not need to hand out more ropes but start making interesting stuffs that is worth it once you finish climbing.