Legitimate Question

[MasamuneBranford]

SE is nerfing turns 1-5 via echo/reset removal; while the three new dungeons being added are I-level 55. Players will be able to spam T1 and T2 with ease (earn up to 6 pieces of allagan gear), plow through easier versions of T4 and T5 and make the three new dungeons completely irrelevant / inferior difficulty.

Legitimate Question: If the only progression after T5 are 4 mini dungeons (turns 6-9), why is SE in such a hurry to get everyone there? These 4 mini dungeons are to be the hardest content for 6 months (until the next coil). How bout we wait till there's more content before catapulting the entire community past turn 5?

[Ryios]

Because SE made this a theme park MMO. However, unlike a real theme park, when SE releases a new ride, they go back to all the old rides and slow them down and adjust them for toddlers so that everyone, including the toddlers can experience all of the rides.

I quit this game, I was a white knight, but this is the 2nd ffxiv launch I've supported and been anything but what I was hoping it would be. I'm done. This game continues to take directions I disagree with, and I don't see that changing. Really I think I'm done with MMO's in general.

The days of Ever Crack, FFXI, and Vanilla WOW are gone, and I don't think they are ever coming back, and that's the genre I want to play.

[Xayoc]

Because SE made this a theme park MMO. However, unlike a real theme park, when SE releases a new ride, they go back to all the old rides and slow them down and adjust them for toddlers so that everyone, including the toddlers can experience all of the rides.

I quit this game, I was a white knight, but this is the 2nd ffxiv launch I've supported and been anything but what I was hoping it would be. I'm done. This game continues to take directions I disagree with, and I don't see that changing. Really I think I'm done with MMO's in general.

The days of Ever Crack, FFXI, and Vanilla WOW are gone, and I don't think they are ever coming back, and that's the genre I want to play.

Goodbye So Soon!

Goodbye so soon
And isn't this a crime?
We know by now that time knows how to fly
So here's goodbye so soon
You'll find your separate way
With time so short I'll say so long
And go
So soon
Goodbye

Legitimate Question: If the only progression after T5 are 4 mini dungeons (turns 6-9), why is SE in such a hurry to get everyone there? These 4 mini dungeons are to be the hardest content for 6 months (until the next coil). How bout we wait till there's more content before catapulting the entire community past turn 5?

It's not a nerf and the buff only applies to the first clear. Personally looking forward to making a fortune mercing turn 5...

[Grey_Cain]

As someone who hasn't even gotten past T1 yet, even I was disappointed to see the iLvls set so slow on the new dungeons. With the way they were talking up the new Amdapor dungeon, I figured it would be at least an i70 dungeon to justify the new tome drops.

[TheMax1087]

Also the echo buff is gradual, it'll be minuscule at first, and then will grow stronger weekly.

[Kuwagami]

does anyone have the source for these info of the echo buff ? (weekly improve and 1st kill only) ?

After reading the nova crystallis interview, what I understand is that the buff will get stronger each week you enter the turns, so if one week you decide to skip T2 (for example), the buff on T2 will remain as it was the week before, and thus get one stack less than every other turn you had cleared for that week.

So it made us stay to work for the game.

One should not "work" for a game unless he's a designer or programmer or press related.

[Xayoc]

Also the echo buff is gradual, it'll be minuscule at first, and then will grow stronger weekly.

Not so, devs are on record as saying it is similar to the buff granted for story content when a wipe happens. With each progressive wipe the buff gets stronger until the content is cleared. It is specifically said, the buff only applies to the first clear.

[ForteXX]

And if you dont want it, you can just remove it by right clicking, same as the story-type Echo.

[TheMax1087]

Not so, devs are on record as saying it is similar to the buff granted for story content when a wipe happens. With each progressive wipe the buff gets stronger until the content is cleared. It is specifically said, the buff only applies to the first clear.

That's completely different than what yoshida said in this interview http://www.novacrystallis.com/2014/0...naoki-yoshida/

Yoshida:...After patch 2.2’s release, with each week if you go into Turns 1-5, the player will have a buff applied to them so it should be a little easier going back into those first levels.

Nova Crystallis: Does that mean the buff increases every week?

Yoshida: Yes.

[Zenaku]

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Ya i was a big white knight for a long time for this game before it even came out back in 2010. I have to say i enjoy 1.0 more then i do 2.0 at least that was hard getting darklight was not easy. You could run that dungeon 50 times and not get one darklight. So it made us stay to work for the game. Now it's all about doing 1-5 then have noting else to do for the rest of the week because that all i need is coil items.

but there always pantheon if they get the funded needed. They want to make a game base on EQ time where you have to do crowd control and death is harsh. But the release date is set for 2017 and that if they get the money to make the game. But ya i agree FFXIV is not going to change it's going to be like this for a long time. Every few months you have to get new gear set and everything else before that does not matter anymore.