How to eliminate Real money gil sale spammers

[LineageRazor]

I'm getting fed-up of reporting them, my blacklist is always full, i'm lucky to get 2 deleted at most per week, also got fed up of reporting bots, only to still see them months later...

If your blist is full, delete the first several entries. When an entry in your blist is marked as "deleted" that does NOT mean that SE has banned them. It means that they deleted their own account. When SE bans an account the account is not marked deleted. If your blist is full, chances are VERY high that more than half of them are banned accounts, and that if you unmark them you will not receive any tells from them.

SE is typically very vast about banning gil spam accounts. However, gil spammers are also very fast about creating new accounts. They only have to spam their adds once or twice on a given account for it to be considered successful advertising.

[Shirai]

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This.

I've said it several times already, just purge your blacklist. And please, please stop saying it's too tedious to do.
Most of you are playing this for several hours per day, performing repetative rotations over and over, for hours on end but spending 15 minutes to delete blacklist entries is too much work?
That shit is really putting some forehead shaped dents into my desk.

[EZ5902]

If your blist is full, delete the first several entries. When an entry in your blist is marked as "deleted" that does NOT mean that SE has banned them. It means that they deleted their own account.

Yes, i know but they still exist, therefore, they stay on.

[lackofwords]

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This.

I've said it several times already, just purge your blacklist. And please, please stop saying it's too tedious to do.
Most of you are playing this for several hours per day, performing repetative rotations over and over, for hours on end but spending 15 minutes to delete blacklist entries is too much work?
That shit is really putting some forehead shaped dents into my desk.

You have to still take it into consideration, instead of chalking it up as people being lazy.
There are better ways to handle it, rather than just having people manually scrub their list each time.

For one, if SE didn't request the cease and desist of the FFXIV mod community, we probably would have had a chat parser by now similar to FFXI Windower.
This would have just cleaned up any RMT text in any chat log. People would also just simply update or modify the regex list if any new spam comes up.
In principle, it's the same way how AdBlocker handles blocking ads, while stilling allowing meaning content to reach you.

[Shirai]

Yes, i know but they still exist, therefore, they stay on.

Yes, they still exist. In the netherrealm called banned, unable to recreate characters who's names will never bother you again.

Delete them.

[Tridus1x]

I propose we have the option to take the gil spammer to the wolves den. Then we can finally get the justice we deserve and fight back at RMT terrorism.

'MURICA

[Rhime]

All SE needs to do is look in the player finder on a daily basis, see the line up of fftgg ddtttfff, hjggt jhhhggtt, aasst yytttrrrr named level 50 players and start the ban hammer accordingly. There is no mistaking those guys as gil farmers.....
Is that too much to ask?
On a side note my tell list is so long from blisting these assholes that I often mistakenly send a tell to them by accident since they were the last to send me spam..bloody irritating!!

[Zplinter]

That doesn't work. I can sell you a copper ore for 2 million gil through the trade window. All that says is that basically you're an idiot for paying that much and 2 million gil changed hands. The problem is always the source because once their supply of gil is gone you can't buy it. It also doesn't help when items and services (FC housing, level 50 crafted gear, primal clears, etc.) are priced at astronomical levels generating a need for that high amount of money. In the 4 years I played WoW I saw maybe 3 gold sellers tells because the system was better to take out the source and gold was not the driving source of currency.

They system in place is clearly not efficiently working. This is not the first of these threads, nor I suspect the last.
Your example is something that again can be track by the sql transaction table history

Gil selling and the inflated item cost (with the expection of land/house which is a static value set by SE in relation to the amount of gil in each worlds system), is a chicken and the egg concept. Prices are high because either the item is rare/hard to make/etc and has a value higher that players are willing to spend their gil on. Primal Clear is that expensive because people are willing to pay for a carry. BUT all these prices are inflated do to the fact that right now you can buy all the gil you feel like from an RMT and the odds on you getting banned for it are low compared to the risk of the buy. If the gil in the economies was what SE expected at the start based on quest rewards, leve payouts and fates, then prices for everything would be lower as the amount of gil in game would be corospondingly lower. Why do you think the FC house cost so much? it is remove all that gil from the economy.

Your example of WoW is only based on your experience, I played Wow for 7 years and yes I got some spam in game, more spam in email out of game. What you are probably not aware of is that Blizzard is very aggressive behind the scenes in monitoring gold.I have had several Guild members go poof for gold buying (granted less then got poofed for using "glide" and or botting). Also remember WoW is a lot more mature economy, the cost of a basic mount today is cheap compared to vanillia. This is still a new economy and one that the Devs are still tweaking.

If Se wants the economy to be relatively stable as WoWs then they need to have the same proactive monitoring of both ends of the exchange.

The Devs will have gil sinks to dry up the inflated amounts of gil in the system, but that will not work until you remove BOTH the sellers and the buyers.

[Doo]

A gil spammer account is created every second. There has to be a better way to deal with it then to add to blacklist and then delete it from blacklist later. Then get spammed by a gil spammer with a similar name which makes you think that you removed them from blacklist just to get re-spammed.

[Issachar]

RMT activities never bothered me. The spamming is annoying though.