How to eliminate Real money gil sale spammers

[gadzi_h]

annoying things like flooding the PF list, and whatever else they could come with. We can't end up with more restrictions everywhere, it would be more annoying to play than to be spammed... and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't find a way to bypass them.

Good point. That is one possible work around but now we see it and can add that to the list of restrictions.

Simply put the buyers are not going away and the sellers are not going away so the only solution is restriction of communications between the two. To be honest I don't personally care if they use Mog Mail to do their transactions and communicate if they really want to continue doing the practice of RMT and breaking TOS. I just don't want to see or hear it any more. Then it becomes SE's problem and I don't have to play unpaid RMT moderator any longer. Maybe they can add an achievement 1500 RMT reports and you get a new mount.

[Talynia]

how does it take too much time to report? takes like 15 seconds to do.

highlight and copy(with CTRL+C) the content of the RMT ad. name, message and all. open up the Support Desk in-game. and look at the FAQ. click the one about RMT ads. click Ask Question. enter 'Your World Name' RMT. so for me is Exodus RMT. then just paste the content in the field below. send the report. throughout the whole day you couldn't possibly spend more then 2minutes reporting RMT ads.

While it doesn't take a long time to do it does for people who are already use to other games where you simply click the spammers name and hit "Report for Spam." You don't have to blacklist them, you don't have to open a ticket to report them. Personally I keep A nifty copy/paste thing myself but I don't expect everyone to and I they should streamline it a little bit more. I have multiple accounts I reported months ago still on my list.

it would be a good idea to have two separate types of blacklists. so when we flood our blacklist with RMT names. then go to clear it out. we don't accidentally remove people we want to be there.

If we can't get the right click option then this would be an awesome thing to implement.

[Giantbane]

how does it take too much time to report? takes like 15 seconds to do.

highlight and copy(with CTRL+C) the content of the RMT ad. name, message and all. open up the Support Desk in-game. and look at the FAQ. click the one about RMT ads. click Ask Question. enter 'Your World Name' RMT. so for me is Exodus RMT. then just paste the content in the field below. send the report. throughout the whole day you couldn't possibly spend more then 2minutes reporting RMT ads.




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it would be a good idea to have two separate types of blacklists. so when we flood our blacklist with RMT names. then go to clear it out. we don't accidentally remove people we want to be there.


just need a simple option in the context menu. one that only shows for a /tell. have it report the previous /tell received. and automatically add that name to a blacklist. the blacklist doesn't need to be automatically cleared when you make the ban. but it would be a plus

sry, too long, i used to report, i do not do it any more.

reporting should be an entry under "add to blacklist" when you click on a player's name in the log, selecting "Report RMT" should bring up a "Do you want to report, Y/N?" dialog box and you hit yes or no.

Any more than that is too much.

[gadzi_h]

... you couldn't possibly spend more then 2minutes reporting RMT ads.

Firstly, you are right the act of reporting takes 30 seconds. Plus the time required to stop everything you are in the middle of doing / enjoying to report an RMT. And then if you happen to be a PS3 user like some and don't have a keyboard what do you do then? Or you have one of those tiny controller keyboards and can't interface well with the chat. Simply put if they were going to launch on console this feature much like the cross bar seems like a smart idea. Server names, character names, etc should auto populate not require someone to type them in, this is simple programming for a company like SE.

And, it is not just the act of reporting one. In many cases you get 3 to 4 in a row by different RMTs. An auto report with lockout would not only be quicker 2 seconds to report, it would not interfere with game play, make it easier for console users, and save others the aggravation of RMT harassment. And it doesn't matter if it is only 2 minutes a day, it takes away from the immersive game world, is unwanted and violates SE's own TOS.

[lackofwords]

sry, too long, i used to report, i do not do it any more.

reporting should be an entry under "add to blacklist" when you click on a player's name in the log, selecting "Report RMT" should bring up a "Do you want to report, Y/N?" dialog box and you hit yes or no.

Any more than that is too much.

Truth.

They might not have streamlined it for a reason.
Which is why I was wondering why the in-game macro for it just stops at the point of simply opening Support Desk.

[Giantbane]

Truth.

They might not have streamlined it for a reason.
Which is why I was wondering why the in-game macro for it just stops at the point of simply opening Support Desk.

Perhaps, but not streamlining it means it's not being used. They can consider that if they wish.

[Naiser]

I'm very sure my suggestions would have little to no impact on legit players, but do a lot to diminish the bot spamming everyone is subjected to.

You're the one that has to prove it would somehow hurt the pre-lv 15 gameplay experience, not me.




Secondly, my suggestion doesn't have any impact on people able to use the local chat to talk to someone in their immediate area. It doesn't stop them from using party chat either.

There is absolutely, positively no legit reason for a pre level 15 character to need to send a PM to anyone not willing to first add them to a friend list.

None, zilch, notta.

Maybe you're a gold farming spammer and that is the real reason you're so adamantly opposed?

Gotta love OP's "logical arguments".

Let's use the same line of argument with things that are as clear as day to see if the logic stands.

I'm very sure drowning have little to no causation of death that follows. If you believe otherwise, you prove to me that drowning does cause death.

As for your second claim that there's no legit reason for using /tells before lv15, I suggest you check the dictionary for legit.

Oh wait I know! I must be a gil farmer for disagreeing with you! Woots!

[Karbine]

I've been getting the same body of tell spam since the launch of the game. The only thing that changes is the start and end characters randomized.

[Riv]

Just monitor people's black lists. When the same characters show up many people's blist, investigate and ban if RMT.

[C-croft]

Let's look at this realistically to see why your solution is no solution at all.

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Your solution interrupts gameplay even more. I have to actually go to the Lodestone and type up a report
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You need to decide what is more important; new players needing to add people to a friend list before they can PM other players, or the paying players to be constantly harassed in-game by bots enticing them with offers to steal their accounts.

In my opinion....

New player needing to add someone to a friend list before they can send a PM: Irritation level 3.

Every player getting spammed by bots constantly: Irritation level 100.

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Let's look at this realistically to see why your solution is no solution at all.


There really wasn't a solution posted other than the fact they are still trying to combat RMT by using current methods and evolving said methods as much as possible.

I report in game, no need to go to lodestone... Server name and character name in the support ticket is much easier than going into the lodestone and doing research. Far from effective.

Also, you can typically delete all but the last few Blisted names on the Blist. There is a system in place, but they aren't exactly going to tell us how everything works. That would be counter productive.

A note on the requirement to become friends before gaining the ability to sent /tells:
Every player getting spammed by bots' friend requests constantly: Irritation level 100.

But I digress, there is a /tell spam issue regardless.