Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

[Kafeen]

So you condone 1-2 Lv.50's blowing through Toto-Rak for 2-3 Lv.25's? It's things like this that destroy any semblance of a challenge in games anymore. You may as well be breastfeeding at 15 years old.

It doesn't destroy the challenge unless you want it to destroy the challenge. If you don't want to be lead through the dungeon by someone level 50, don't get someone level 50 to join you, form a party of level 25's instead.

If someone ones wants to be hand-lead through the dungeon, what difference does it make to you?

[Rentahamster]

If someone ones wants to be hand-lead through the dungeon, what difference does it make to you?

Because that person will get rewarded with good raid loot for doing absolutely nothing. If he wants to get hand-held, that's fine. Just don't give any raid gear rewards in that scenario.

[Richard]

It doesn't destroy the challenge unless you want it to destroy the challenge. If you don't want to be lead through the dungeon by someone level 50, don't get someone level 50 to join you, form a party of level 25's instead.

If someone ones wants to be hand-lead through the dungeon, what difference does it make to you?

you miss the point that there are people who don't have jobs below the 30's and 40's anymore.

[Shika]

you miss the point that there are people who don't have jobs below the 30's and 40's anymore.

If this is the case, then surely these players won't be bothered about the gear that drops in the lower level dungeon? The same as if gear drops from NMs for my CON for example that is below my current rank- if it is no longer effective I don't care to go and get it. I don't see that being a problem- should I insist that SE makes all NM drops for rank 50 only?

[TheVedis]

If this is the case, then surely these players won't be bothered about the gear that drops in the lower level dungeon? The same as if gear drops from NMs for my CON for example that is below my current rank- if it is no longer effective I don't care to go and get it. I don't see that being a problem- should I insist that SE makes all NM drops for rank 50 only?

circular arguement

they dont want 50s getting the gear easily
the 50s dont need the gear
then why does it need to be capped?
because they still dont want the 50s getting the gear easily

[Physic]

circular arguement

they dont want 50s getting the gear easily
the 50s dont need the gear
then why does it need to be capped?
because they still dont want the 50s getting the gear easily

dont want you ruining the game for everyone lower than you. If it was just you doing it who cares, but it will be the rule rather than the exception.
If they limit drops it would be enough of a deterent for level 50s, but still allow people who just want to explore and see stuff to go in there and murder everything

[TheVedis]

dont want you ruining the game for everyone lower than you. If it was just you doing it who cares, but it will be the rule rather than the exception.
If they limit drops it would be enough of a deterent for level 50s, but still allow people who just want to explore and see stuff to go in there and murder everything

but no one is forcing anyone to go into those 30 dungeons with 50 players

thats the beauty of it

you can CHOOSE who is in your party still, or did they somehow take that option out of the game?

[Richard]

but no one is forcing anyone to go into those 30 dungeons with 50 players

thats the beauty of it

you can CHOOSE who is in your party still, or did they somehow take that option out of the game?

for the people with no jobs below the 30's yes. that option is taken out of the game.

[Peregrine]

but no one is forcing anyone to go into those 30 dungeons with 50 players

thats the beauty of it

you can CHOOSE who is in your party still, or did they somehow take that option out of the game?

Vedis is a crafter. He actually looks forward to swooping into content aimed at R30 crafters and wrecking the place. Challenge isn't something he focuses on. Just advantage.

[Physic]

but no one is forcing anyone to go into those 30 dungeons with 50 players

thats the beauty of it

you can CHOOSE who is in your party still, or did they somehow take that option out of the game?

you can change your job anywhere. I remember back in pso they had challenge mode, it required 4 players to start, cheaters would join games, kill for like 5 minutes normally then whip out super hacks and easymode the level. Whats to stop that now?

but ok thats not that relevant lets assume people arent aholes.

the fact that a large portion of people will try to get people to help them though easy content lowers the available amount of people who need to actually complete it normally. The fact that if things look bad people can switch to their easy job in the 4rth quarter effects their game.