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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    How about if the class rank is 10 ranks about the dungeon rank then the player get no loot and exp?
    That would be totally fine. Reward is proportional to the difficulty.
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  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    Applying a cap is a little more complicated in FFXIV since we can change classes freely ( and I'm guessing they don't want to disable this ability ) and the level cap would have to be checked every time we did this..
    No it's not more complicated. It's a simple logic check when the player sends the request to the server to change quest. IF CLASS > 30 DENY ELSE CHANGE CLASS. How hard can it be to program that? They wouldn't be disabling the ability to change class, they'd be disabling the ability to use an over-ranked class. You'd still be able to change class to one that meets the requirement.
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    It's just so fun to think of a way to solo a dungeon with time and patience and proper planning.
    Plan: Strap on your LV 50 weapon and smash your way to victory in 3 minutes. Nude.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    having R50's steamroll a R30 dungeon will not qualify as a challenge. sorry.
    why? it's content and we have been begging for something/anything to do.

    reading comprehension ftw. i stated i would get into both as soon as possible. yes, the r30 will be no challenge, but it will be something to do. the r50 is what i will base their idea of challenge off of.
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Easy and hard mode is functionally the same thing as a level cap. It's just a difficulty adjustment.

    Except a level cap takes less effort by the devs to do since they don't have to design an additional hard mode.
    Yes it takes less effort by the devs, but it is also more annoyance for the players.

    When you are downgraded to rank30, you lose AP, which means you have to redo your abilities, if you plan to do it alot, you will have to write a macro, it just sounds like plain annoyance for the players, and that is probably the last thing we need.
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    No kidding that's what the R50 dungeon is for.

    The R30 dungeon gear is going to be good FOR R30 players. That's what makes it valuable and prestigious. Of course it's useless for R50 players. However, if you intend to rank up your mid-range classes, then all of a sudden it's not so useless anymore. There is a problem if you can just toggle on easy mode to acquire items that are supposed to be good and elite.


    Because it is impossible to have the rewards match the effort just by knowing what we know now.

    We know that: Raid gear is going to be good. Rank 30 raid gear will be generally better than other gear at rank 30.

    Rank 30 raid gear = good gear

    Without a level cap, you can steamroll the dungeon as a rank 50 char, therefore not putting in any effort at all to acquire gear that is supposed to be "good".

    What this boils down to, basically, is whether or not you are in favor of twinking gear in this game.
    What this REALLY boils down to is a difference in opinion. I don't feel the need or desire to put in an hours worth of effort just for the chance that I am going to get r30 gear, plain and simple. So if the dungeon is capped, I will ignore it and go on about my business. I don't care how challenging the community will think the dungeon is, because, by definition, the r50 dungeon will be MORE challenging. Completing the r50 dungeon is the only feat I feel I need to prove to myself and the community and r30 gear is just going to 'be there'. If it is capped, then it doesn't exist in my eyes and I am not the only one who thinks so.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    No it's not more complicated. It's a simple logic check when the player sends the request to the server to change quest. IF CLASS > 30 DENY ELSE CHANGE CLASS. How hard can it be to program that? They wouldn't be disabling the ability to change class, they'd be disabling the ability to use an over-ranked class. You'd still be able to change class to one that meets the requirement.

    most people do not mean a level cap as in you cannot enter this dunegon, they mean a level cap as in, it adjusts your level for the duration of the raid.
    they already have gear scaling in effect, i dont think it would be that hard, but who knows.
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  8. #208
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    I don't understand why some of you are bothered if some Lv50 helps his Lv25 ls mates/friends through the dungeons. With a Lv 50 in group, they won't be getting good sp/xp and as far is loot is concerned this is a lv 25 dungeon so i don't see any epic endgame items being obtained in there. If you want a challenging experience then you should go in with lv 25-30ppl and if others want to be lazy about it they can go in with lv50ppl but their actions does not effect you in anyway. People are exaggerating the issue for no reason at all, im pretty sure your world won't collapse if 3ppl take a Lv50 to go do the Lv25 dungeon, heck 99% of the time you won't even know about it.
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    lol Sounds like to me some of you people should go play stupid Rift. Good Riddance
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    why? it's content and we have been begging for something/anything to do.
    And if it's too easy, the players will get bored with it too fast and will be clamoring for more content too soon.
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