Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

[Xatsh]

This is a horrible move for SE, anyone in an active ls right will not be doing those dungeons with a bunch of 30s. SE essentially wasted all their time developing this 30 dungeon if there is not going to be a level restriction to it.

The lower level dungeons need to be level capped just like CoP, anyone can do them but their level us reduced to the maximum level that could enter while they are in the dungeon.

If there is not a barrier to entree, there will be no sense of reward in that dungeons... it will just be another meaningless time sink because there will hardly be any groups of 30s in it it will a 50 zerg fest which will get everyone the gear fast then everyone will stop doing it. No accomplishment, no feeling of reward = no fun.

[trinta]

leveling and harder/challenging content is a different story imo. And the main content including capped fights were still challenging. if bcnm, cop, etc. were not capped the game wouldnt have offered half the fun it did.
Thats exactly the problem of all mmos. ALL content up to max cap is for crap. Has not a single replay value because no cap. Its more fun to help a 25/30 friend if you as well get synced to that lvl instead of rushing them through.

I remember that from other mmos and its just not fun. And the newbies who ask for help from ls wont experience fun and challenges until maybe endgame. So whats the point? We have so many easy mode mmos out there with also nice graphics. ... if ffxiv becomes one of them and doesnt change the direction it will be a rift clone with years of content lacking, and won't stand a single chance in the market.

Leveling is a different story? So what you're saying is that PLing is okay, because that isn't where you personally looked for your challenge?

As for the rest of your post, I think I get what you're saying, but I also think that asking for a level sync feature is a better solution--in that it would allow those people who want to steamroll/help steamroll to do so, while still allowing those who want more challenge in certain areas to be able to maintain that via level syncing.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

This is a horrible move for SE, anyone in an active ls right will not be doing those dungeons with a bunch of 30s. SE essentially wasted all their time developing this 30 dungeon if there is not going to be a level restriction to it.

The lower level dungeons need to be level capped just like CoP, anyone can do them but their level us reduced to the maximum level that could enter while they are in the dungeon.

If there is not a barrier to entree, there will be no sense of reward in that dungeons... it will just be another meaningless time sink because there will hardly be any groups of 30s in it it will a 50 zerg fest which will get everyone the gear fast then everyone will stop doing it. No accomplishment, no feeling of reward = no fun.

Then don't do it.

[Richard]

Exactly, which means the new content is going to go unused by half the population if capped. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid level content for the CHALLENGE, CAN RUN IT AS A r30! Problem solved.

do you not understand what a capped dungeon means? It doesn't mean I cant enter at Lv.50 it means that if I try to enter at Lv.50 that I will be scaled down to Lv.30... And to the people who don't have anymore Lv.30's? They are going to steamroll.

Yes. All 500 of you who have leveled every DoM/DoW to 50 are completely out of luck. If you want to experience this content at-level, that is legitimate. You can make a new character. Or petition SE for a level sync feature that will allow you to team up with someone who still has a lower-rank class.

So you're in favor of excluding a section of people just so you can have easy content k. On the other hand capping a dungeon @ 30 does not hurt anyone and keeps the challenge alive.

[Anty]

Yes. All 500 of you who have leveled every DoM/DoW to 50 are completely out of luck. If you want to experience this content at-level, that is legitimate. You can make a new character. Or petition SE for a level sync feature that will allow you to team up with someone who still has a lower-rank class.

But to come to the forums and cry about it just makes you look ridiculous. Talk about entitlement issues, hah!

why is asking for some challenge ridiculous? an mmo cant exist if its easy mode with competitors like wow, aion or rift etc...
since they are easy mode already and they create content way faster then SE and still its not enough and they losing subscribers (not sure about wow but i guess they as well).

Every content will be done withing 1-2 days, even for a casual gamer... how is that supposed to work in an mmo?
Who pays fees just to log on every few months to rush through another easy-mode dungeon?... i don't understand these people but well looking at how the game and the decreasing population i won't have to think about it anyways.
The easy mode people will leave back to wow, rift, etc. And the others will perhaps not touch an mmo anytime soon or go back to playing single player rpg.

[EgweneALvere]

How about we just ask for a Voluntary Cap feature? That way you can choose how you want to go thru the dungeon.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Please for the love of God/Buddha/Allah/Kirin give us something that plays like the CoP missions!!! I have no problems with level capping areas. The Promy's were amazing. The challenges. The rewards. The storyline. All of it was on point.

I think most wants that, but the opposing crew just yells louder.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

why is asking for some challenge ridiculous? an mmo cant exist if its easy mode with competitors like wow, aion or rift etc...
since they are easy mode already and they create content way faster then SE and still its not enough and they losing subscribers (not sure about wow but i guess they as well).

Every content will be done withing 1-2 days, even for a casual gamer... how is that supposed to work in an mmo?
Who pays fees just to log on every few months to rush through another easy-mode dungeon?... i don't understand these people but well looking at how the game and the decreasing population i won't have to think about it anyways.
The easy mode people will leave back to wow, rift, etc. And the others will perhaps not touch an mmo anytime soon or go back to playing single player rpg.

Who is being excluded the way it is? Your argument makes no sense. NO ONE is excluded from an uncapped dungeon while lvl 50 players who don't need the gear and don't want to run it as lvl 30 would be excluded.

[trinta]

So you're in favor of excluding a section of people just so you can have easy content k. On the other hand capping a dungeon @ 30 does not hurt anyone and keeps the challenge alive.

I am in favor of not catering the rules of the game to an exceedingly small minority.

[Richard]

But to come to the forums and cry about it just makes you look ridiculous. Talk about entitlement issues, hah!

Coming to the forums and asking FOR A LARGER CHALLENGE makes me look ridiculous? Since when has anyone asking for more of a challenge been ridiculous.

I am in favor of not catering the rules of the game to an exceedingly small minority.

That small minority is the reason this game even exists. If FFXI didn't survive as long as it did there would have never been an XIV. Why is it so hard to understand that you need to cater to EVERYONE.