This game isn't for hardcore players

[Musashidon]

T He destroyed the elemental wheel because he didn't want people to be stressed out by having to use their brain and think of things like elemental weaknesses and strengths.

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit because they have ice and it would do extremly high damage compared to all other classes, now think like that against every boss you fought, oh look this is weak against fire welp this is a blm battle they go from doing 1-2k to 2-4k.

it was because elemental weakness makes certain classes worthless or op, think of bone dragon if summoners couldn't dot them because they are all about poisons and such, great now you're either kicked or forced to leave because you got summoners. it makes content unfair to other classes.

[Xandim]

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit because they have ice and it would do extremly high damage compared to all other classes, now think like that against every boss you fought, oh look this is weak against fire welp this is a blm battle they go from doing 1-2k to 2-4k.

it was because elemental weakness makes certain classes worthless or op, think of bone dragon if summoners couldn't dot them because they are all about poisons and such, great now you're either kicked or forced to leave because you got summoners. it makes content unfair to other classes.

Even tho Yoshi is against using consumables for fights (archer's arrows for example) he chould have kept the elemental wheel and just gave alchemist's some recipes to coat weapons with elements. Or they could even make them enchant a weapon for a permanent element buff.

[Messenger]

I dont understand o_o.. people keep complaining about this game is not hardcore but they don't even suggest what they want for the game. Yada yada yada is all i read.

What exactly a hardcore game for you? Do you want to put less camp in a zone so people are forced to travel a lot even after using a teleport? Do you want as hardcore as spending 5 hours just to find or form a party? A downgrade of the game just to make it hardcore? Im confused, when they implement turn coils i thought that was hardcore and all i hear are people complaining against other players who sucks. too many complaints guys! Just quit! lol

[Xandim]

I dont understand o_o.. people keep complaining about this game is not hardcore but they don't even suggest what they want for the game. Yada yada yada is all i read.

What exactly a hardcore game for you? Do you want to put less camp in a zone so people are forced to travel a lot even after using a teleport? Do you want as hardcore as spending 5 hours just to find or form a party? A downgrade of the game just to make it hardcore? Im confused, when they implement turn coils i thought that was hardcore and all i hear are people complaining against other players who sucks. too many complaints guys! Just quit! lol

Quite simple, because people have different meanings for 'hardcore'. Some think that fighting a boss for 12h straight is hardcore, some think that farming 20 days just to see a piece of equipment drop is hardcore. To me, titan EX is hardcore enough, cant defeat that mofo =\

[AlexiaKidd]

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit because they have ice and it would do extremly high damage compared to all other classes, now think like that against every boss you fought, oh look this is weak against fire welp this is a blm battle they go from doing 1-2k to 2-4k.

it was because elemental weakness makes certain classes worthless or op, think of bone dragon if summoners couldn't dot them because they are all about poisons and such, great now you're either kicked or forced to leave because you got summoners. it makes content unfair to other classes.

Or you know they could have just gave every class elemental based weapons skills, weapons, gear and buffs and then it would be balanced and there would be this huge variety that we are talking about.

[Fayto]

Or you know they could have just gave every class elemental based weapons skills, weapons, gear and buffs and then it would be balanced and there would be this huge variety that we are talking about.

That would also involve completely remaking Black Mage since it's entire kit is about waxing and waning of Fire and Ice. You also didn't solve anything and just made the current system but with a different skin. If everyone can do it, then what is the point? It also gimps classes if they don't have the certain gear/skill and makes everything balanced around the elemental instead of skill.

[AlexiaKidd]

Not this thread again, the last one got deleted by the admins.

That would also involve completely remaking Black Mage since it's entire kit is about waxing and waning of Fire and Ice. You also didn't solve anything and just made the current system but with a different skin. If everyone can do it, then what is the point? It also gimps classes if they don't have the certain gear/skill and makes everything balanced around the elemental instead of skill.

I know that which is why I know it will never change now, which brings me back to original point of they simplified the stat system too much which means there is a lack of variety in gear and tactics.

[Synapse]

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit.

Dem slippery slope!

It seems you never played Final fantasy.... those games would not exist if people and developers thought like you do.

Lets compare FFXI, since its a FF MMO. in the 8 yrs i played, i never seen full blm dps for any mobs, unless its one of those manaburn pt blm makes themselves,similar to how summoners make astral burn pt or melee makes TP burn pt.

There were monsters in ffxi where the monsters only take increased magic damage when melee perform skillchain(TP chain) to lower its elemental affinity. cause the need for mixed classes. If i recall, in a 6 man party set up, 1 tank, 1 healer, 4 dps(1 support).. i almost never seen 2 black mages.

The monsters dont always have elemental weakness, even if they do, their weakness does not differentiate much. Dont forget, some monsters maybe have weaker elemental affinity, but they also might have 2nd status such as magic damage reduction, or reflect.. there are many factors to look at other than "omg ifrit weak to water, throw blm at it!"

[Alipoprocks]

Dem slippery slope!

It seems you never played Final fantasy.... those games would not exist if people and developers thought like you do.

It seems you didn't watch the live letters or read the letters from producer. Yoshi-P said that is the reason: he did not want certain jobs to be excluded because of elemental weakness.