This game isn't for hardcore players

[AlexiaKidd]

More Horizontal Progression. Yes Please.

That is one thing i loved about games... where you get a good weapon and you use it to fight stuff and other content.

This is how FFXIV weapon system goes.

Day 1, get GC weapon,
Day 2, use GC weapon to get AK weapons,
Day 3, Use AK weapon to get Ifrit,
Day 4 Use Ifrit Weapon to get Garuda weapon,
Day 5 Use Garuda Weapon to get Titan,
Day 6 work toward you relic,
Day 7 Either get EX Primal Weapon or upgrade your relic, use that to get T5.
Next use T5 to get T9 Weapon.

Those that's a bit exaggerated, that how this game is.

I WANNA USE THE WEAPON FOR OTHER CONTENT DAMN IT!

This is one of my main gripes with FFXIV. With Yoshi P's massive simplification of stats it has killed pretty much all variety in any gear and weapon choices. He destroyed the elemental wheel because he didn't want people to be stressed out by having to use their brain and think of things like elemental weaknesses and strengths. The whole stat system has been completely simplified, I don't even know why they let you assign attributes as there is pretty much only one stat that you are going to stick it on for most of the Jobs.

[Richiealvian]

Black Mage becomes Bahamut Mage!

so bahamut is black?

[Killance]

[Musashidon]

T He destroyed the elemental wheel because he didn't want people to be stressed out by having to use their brain and think of things like elemental weaknesses and strengths.

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit because they have ice and it would do extremly high damage compared to all other classes, now think like that against every boss you fought, oh look this is weak against fire welp this is a blm battle they go from doing 1-2k to 2-4k.

it was because elemental weakness makes certain classes worthless or op, think of bone dragon if summoners couldn't dot them because they are all about poisons and such, great now you're either kicked or forced to leave because you got summoners. it makes content unfair to other classes.

[Chihaya]

This game was marketed to be more casual friendly... if you were looking for a hardcore game, you chose the wrong game yourself.

As for the whole xxxx game is going to die when all these new games coming out... I can't recall how many of these I have seen for all the MMOs I have played. I seen these comments on FFXI, AION, TERA, and a few more other games, yet most of them are still alive and profiting.

[Xandim]

wrong he did it because only blm's would be allowed in ifrit because they have ice and it would do extremly high damage compared to all other classes, now think like that against every boss you fought, oh look this is weak against fire welp this is a blm battle they go from doing 1-2k to 2-4k.

it was because elemental weakness makes certain classes worthless or op, think of bone dragon if summoners couldn't dot them because they are all about poisons and such, great now you're either kicked or forced to leave because you got summoners. it makes content unfair to other classes.

Even tho Yoshi is against using consumables for fights (archer's arrows for example) he chould have kept the elemental wheel and just gave alchemist's some recipes to coat weapons with elements. Or they could even make them enchant a weapon for a permanent element buff.

[Messenger]

I dont understand o_o.. people keep complaining about this game is not hardcore but they don't even suggest what they want for the game. Yada yada yada is all i read.

What exactly a hardcore game for you? Do you want to put less camp in a zone so people are forced to travel a lot even after using a teleport? Do you want as hardcore as spending 5 hours just to find or form a party? A downgrade of the game just to make it hardcore? Im confused, when they implement turn coils i thought that was hardcore and all i hear are people complaining against other players who sucks. too many complaints guys! Just quit! lol

[Xandim]

I dont understand o_o.. people keep complaining about this game is not hardcore but they don't even suggest what they want for the game. Yada yada yada is all i read.

What exactly a hardcore game for you? Do you want to put less camp in a zone so people are forced to travel a lot even after using a teleport? Do you want as hardcore as spending 5 hours just to find or form a party? A downgrade of the game just to make it hardcore? Im confused, when they implement turn coils i thought that was hardcore and all i hear are people complaining against other players who sucks. too many complaints guys! Just quit! lol

Quite simple, because people have different meanings for 'hardcore'. Some think that fighting a boss for 12h straight is hardcore, some think that farming 20 days just to see a piece of equipment drop is hardcore. To me, titan EX is hardcore enough, cant defeat that mofo =\

[NyneAlexander]

meh, i work a pretty demanding job, hang out with my wife, see friends, and still am able to clear coil and primal ex's every week. I denied the casualness of this game until it became so apparent that it was impossible. I mean... when you are regularly clearing everything while playing casually, the game is too casual.

[ulti_19]

Personally I laugh at the debate between "Hardcore" and Casual" What game is harcore? Every mmo I've ever played, the forums are plagued with 'this game caters to the casual" argument. There will never ever be enough content or hard enough content for someone who can play the game 8 hours a day plus. You will be done in a week.

If you think there should be more of a grind, get lv 30 in pvp.
If you think bosses are too easy, when you get into the primal fight, have half the group sit it out and try to beat it with a team of 4 people
If you think that there's not enough content, don't do it all on Monday, go breathe that fresh air outside once in awhile But be warned this way you too, will inevitably beat all the content even at a slower pace, because games aren't infinite.
If you guys want a way more hardcore" game, make SE change the level requirments and make level 50 100 times longer to get with repetitive grinding on mobs, because hardcore stuff shouldn't have easy quests to fetch high exp., and remove fates altogether