Request to Dev's. Tune Titan HM.

[Siobahn]

Just throwing this out there as a suggestion....

I had trouble the first couple times dodging plumes in Titan HM, and I could definitely notice a lag. I then port-forwarded my router (properly, not using portforward.com), and added exclusions to my firewall for FFXIV. I also updated to the latest video card drivers. The difference in the first fight after doing this was night and day.

I'll be the first to admit that SE's servers are absolute garbage, but if you haven't done ALL of the stuff I mentioned in an attempt to fix your lag issue, then it's still your fault that you're lagging. If you have, well, start stalking SE's customer service lines until they get frustrated and fix it.

[Sax]

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You can't dodge faster. You're either preempting them (which you are doing because you know the order - which is the same as pre-dodging) or you are using the visual cue to dodge. The fight was designed for players to use the visual cues to dodge Titan's attacks, the same way you see the dev's play in the previews. It doesn't matter that you 'feel' the reaction time in the second video was slow. The fact remains that if they were one of the many players that don't experience the lag that goes along with Titan, they would have been well clear. I rerolled on Tonberry just because I was tired of the continual lag on I had on Sarg. Dodging plumes with and without lag is like night and day (same computer, same connection.) I will agree with you that people with lag need to either reroll or work around the issue if they want to clear the content, but that's not a real solution to the problem. I do think that these threads need to keep popping up though, just so mechanics like weight of the land are implemented in a way that accounts for the well established and documented lag that occurs in these fights.

[Noctura]

I've seen Titan HM complaints for such a long time now. It's something I hear from almost everyone that has been trying it. I have seen a lot of people rage quit the game, and seen very calm people be brought to all caps in frustration during the attempts at this fight. I beat it one time so far, and almost died of happy, but I will not try the fight again most likely. I don't find it fun. It's great once it's beaten.... but it burnt me out on FFXIV for a pretty long time. I believe there comes a time when something can be too complicated or difficult to be fun anymore, and some fights in this game are just not fun for me. (This is just my opinion.)
I don't want to have to spend hours studying a video, spoiling all the content, or end up cast out because I have slightly worse internet or 30ms more than the average person. I really like ffxiv. I just don't like when they think making it a perfectionists light show dance battle is fun. I have seen statics, and FCs give up and split up constantly because a group of friends often find themselves unable to complete it no matter how many times they try.

If they ever change the fight I may try again. Right now my only solution is to avoid it. I have already done everything I can to make it better. Port forwarding, tried WTFast, different routers, new modem, and even changing my ISP didn't fix anything with that fight. It is completely impossible to avoid the plumes for my husband and I. It doesn't matter if I am across the entire platform from that plume, it will hit me no matter where I stand. It is very frustrating to always feel as if I play crippled. They are just too big and too fast. I haven't had problems with T4 or anything else in the game like I have with Titan HM. It's just not fun to me to keep eating invisible plume and getting yelled at for something I can't help. So I just will avoid content that is Titan HM or anything similar to it.

I hope to continue seeing these threads endlessly... in hopes SE will not repeat the same frustrating experience with something else in the future that I would have otherwise enjoyed.

To those still trying, I wish you the best of luck. You will eventually stop coughing dirt and tasting rocks after battle. T_T
A cookie to each of you for all your Titan pains. <3

[leprov]

You can't dodge faster. You're either preempting them (which you are doing because you know the order - which is the same as pre-dodging) or you are using the visual cue to dodge. The fight was designed for players to use the visual cues to dodge Titan's attacks, the same way you see the dev's play in the previews. It doesn't matter that you 'feel' the reaction time in the second video was slow.

It matters A LOT!!! Between the plumes pop and the first step of the char, there is like....1.5s. IT IS DAMN SLOW. 1.5s, no sprint, there is a far more important problem than delay here, and this videos shows nothing other than "you can die outside of plumes". But his problem is not delay, and he is just the type of people who focus on the fact that they die oustide of plumes, but should improve themselves. Be honest about his reaction time (or if you don't, there is no point in this discussion)

[Ddmk]

NO NO NO NO NO this fight is fine how it is,with all the watered down content in this game (sunken temple, AK, good king mog, etc) leave something to skill.
It took me 3 weeks to get my 1st relic but I got it through earning it.

My suggestion is make a pf group if you fail make note of those who did well and invite them back,3 or 4 runs later you'll have downed him np

EDIT:- I now have 3 relics looking forward to my 4th

[Highlanderx]

NO NO NO NO NO this fight is fine how it is,with all the watered down content in this game (sunken temple, AK, good king mog, etc) leave something to skill.
It took me 3 weeks to get my 1st relic but I got it through earning it.

My suggestion is make a pf group if you fail make note of those who did well and invite them back,3 or 4 runs later you'll have downed him np

EDIT:- I now have 3 relics looking forward to my 4th

It is not fine. Content should be Hard because it Hard. Not Hard because there is lag. It doesn't take skill to win. It takes either having an overgeared party, who can take the hits when it lags or to have some luck and experience little to now lag.

Unless your talking about learning learn boss pattern, so you are pre-dodging attacks. But that goes against the games design of having indicators and casting bars in the first place. Not to mention if you wind up with bad luck and wind of with major lag, you still are taking hits.

[Reishi]

It is not fine. Content should be Hard because it Hard. Not Hard because there is lag. It doesn't take skill to win. It takes either having an overgeared party, who can take the hits when it lags or to have some luck and experience little to now lag. [...] Not to mention if you wind up with bad luck and wind of with major lag, you still are taking hits.

I'm european playing on NA Server, so I very well know which lags you're talking about. Lags got MUCH better with the introduction of EX primals and Titan HM really shouldn't be that big deal. When you really watch the casting bar for the Plumes and not just wait until the animation shows up to think you maybe should move anytime soon, you won't have any issues there. If possible, use a VPN.
Really, Lags are no excuse for getting constantly hit by Titan HM stuff. Just practice.

[Kajidourden]

I agree with the OP. I'm usually a strong supporter of "less QQ, moar epeen"...but let's be honest, Titan HM is like hitting a brick wall when it comes to progressing in your relic. I don't think it needs to be totally nerfed....but a little play wouldn't hurt at all. The difficulty curve spikes from below sea level to stratosphere levels (comparatively speaking of course...the fight isn't that hard compared to later content). For a new player it's kinda like strolling along making progress and suddenly you get punched in the face.
As a final comment, I think the fact that FC's sell Titan HM wins and not anything else really speaks for itself.

[leprov]

As a final comment, I think the fact that FC's sell Titan HM wins and not anything else really speaks for itself.

It speaks for itself, but I don't understand it in the same way you do! For me, it means "Titan is brick wall if you want to pug it....And it can be sold by 7 people who know what they are doing, so if you're with a static group, you have to progress through the fight".
By the way, people sell extreme primals too, and they don't sell coils because there's a timer on it and they just want to keep their loot for themselves. Prepare yourself to see some T5 sales after 2.2 for people who want to unlock T6

[Highlanderx]

It speaks for itself, but I don't understand it in the same way you do! For me, it means "Titan is brick wall if you want to pug it....And it can be sold by 7 people who know what they are doing, so if you're with a static group, you have to progress through the fight".

Except Titan is not a brick wall for PUG. Its a Brick wall because of lag. It doesn't need to be nerfed. it needs to be balanced with the average person lag in mind.