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  1. #141
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Simaril View Post
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    Using full crafted accessories is fine as long as they're for your intended role. I still use an Astral Ring on my WHM (mainly because I can't get a better ring to drop) and that has +8 VIT on it. But the thing is, the OP is using a Rose Gold ring and the rest myth tanking accessories. Even using the Astral accessory set you still have MND, PIE, DET, SpS, etc. Which are 100% more beneficial to WHM then the tanking accessories the OP swears on. And yes healing is easy, but it becomes stressful when the amount you heal is too little compared to how much damage the tank is taking so quickly (Let's say WP speed runs as an example where they're holding all those mobs). And I wouldn't say "Dancing" is even remotely difficult once you know the encounter.

    While I won't write off crafted accessories (I personally love them over Darklight), but I have more then enough HP I need to survive T5 Fireballs with HQ Mulled Tea, so why not go for more MND and Spell Speed with my last 2 accessories (Damn Coil...)
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  2. #142
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    Heofonum's Avatar
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    Heofonum Lightfall
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    All points have been made. Most were ignored. The others just won't process.

    We've found there are a most depressing amount of individuals that agree and/or "understand" with the OP.

    Thread should now die, be deleted or at the least be transferred to General Discussion.

    Stop posting.
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  3. #143
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    Aria_Stars's Avatar
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    Aria Stars
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    tanky healers in 1.0 was acceptable because gear didn't make a huge difference on heals, but in 2.0 the extra healing really can make a difference. my average cure1's are like 1075 and my cure2's upwards of 1800. if you have to tank anything in the first place you're doing it wrong or your group is doing it wrong. play however you want in your own privacy but when you're playing with a group I don't think it's fair to them to not be playing your role the best you can.

    this thread is pretty pointless though, OP just wants to brag and justify his/her reasons while not being interested in anyone elses opinions.
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    Last edited by Aria_Stars; 03-05-2014 at 04:04 AM.

  4. #144
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aria_Stars View Post
    tanky healers in 1.0 was acceptable because gear didn\\'t make a huge difference on heals, but in 2.0 the extra healing really can make a difference in more difficult content. my average cure1\\'s are like 1075 and my cure2\\'s upwards of 1800. if you have to tank anything in the first place you\\'re doing it wrong or your group is doing it wrong.

    this thread is pretty pointless though, OP just wants to brag and justify his/her reasons while not being interested in anyone elses opinions.
    Nah this thread was just to share the insights of the poster who wish to post on this thread. I never said i was going to take ppls advices, as i witnessed ppl started to feel entitled to thinking this is a " give advice to OP " thread.
    All i cared for was what were ppls thoughts and experience of this build.
    But nope ppl turned this into an
    "OP is dumb and invalid, we know everything and should push that onto everyone else" thread in the end.
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  5. #145
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    My opening and title never said that i would take ur advice and play with it.
    All it meant was that
    "WHY" do people hate tanky whm.
    Some people managed to answer this and share their opinions but others failed to and just gave me why i suck and i should either build like the prefered method or stop playing lol.
    So thanks to all the people who answered my question.
    And to all the people who didn't,
    Have fun being bored with cookie cutter builds that will make u play like everyone else that thinks like u, and then proceed to question that the game is too easy and is boring.
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  6. #146
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Game too hard must stack vit.
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  7. #147
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Game too hard must stack vit.
    Correction,
    Game too hard for others, must stack Vit to cheese game and carry others if possible so we can all win.
    Or
    Game too hard for tanks, they suck and have forced me to tank and do their jobs till they get their act together.
    Or
    Game too hard must stack vit and make other people like you comment on it. Looooooooool
    So funny it made me post this
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  8. #148
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    Aria Stars
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    "Why do people hate on tanky healers" - because you're trying to play two roles at once while being mediocre at both. I think that pretty much sums it up.
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  9. #149
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    Azura De'tylmarande
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aria_Stars View Post
    "Why do people hate on tanky healers" - because you're trying to play two roles at once while being mediocre at both. I think that pretty much sums it up.
    Pretty much this. The scrubs might adore you because you can mke up for their flaws in mediogre content, but people who know what they're doing will just consider you a burden
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  10. #150
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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    My opening and title never said that i would take ur advice and play with it.
    All it meant was that
    "WHY" do people hate tanky whm.
    As others pointed out, people "hate tanky healers" because of the lesser mind and piety equating to lower cure numbers and less MP. That's pretty much it.

    Nothing wrong with playing how you want, if you find the normal gear setup for party healing more boring than with tank accessories that's your opinion I guess (I don't see how being a healer with tanky HP is more fun than healer with more MP though, to each his/her own). And if you can keep up with the heals while having a lower cure amount and less overall MP all the better. Doesn't matter as long as you can play your role effectively for whatever you're doing. The "cookie cutter" builds are just the most efficient and preferred for the role.
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