Holmgang and Foresight still.... Meh ? How I would do it

[Dedayius]

One of three things happens when I use Holmgang. 1) I die immediately after anyways because I'm rooted to the spot and cannot dodge in time, 2) the healers keep me topped up and so using the skill was a waste and I use up more healer mana because again, I'm rooted and can't dodge AoEs or 3) I die anyways because animationdelaylol!

[Lemon8or]

What usually happens to me when I use Holmgang with the healers I run with: Holmgang -> HP dropped to 1 -> Benediction -> Proceed as normal.

[ZodiacSoldier]

well HG has a limit on how much damage can be absorbed, but holmgang does not. I took 60,000 dmg from ultima (5 stacks on aetheroplasm) before it faded and i died... i dont think HG takes that much. This is very situational, i only use it if i think the next ability will 1 shot me. bit of a last ditch effort.

HG does not have a limit it just last 10 seconds. Ultimas stacking ability isnt like Ifrit / Titan HM where each stacks makes you take more damage, for Ultima HM once you hit 5 stack you get killed instantly even with HG or Holmgang.

[C-croft]

HG does not have a limit it just last 10 seconds. Ultimas stacking ability isnt like Ifrit / Titan HM where each stacks makes you take more damage, for Ultima HM once you hit 5 stack you get killed instantly even with HG or Holmgang.

This is not correct. If you pop HG or Holmgang, you have until the buff wears off. Maybe a second after. It is spectacular to see the insane damage you take each burst.... Still dead, but at least a PLD can give the pt up to about 11 seconds.

[ElricHellshadow]

Holmgang saved my buns today on our first Twintania clear. I was eating bombs on the node when I had Liquid Hell dumped all over me. My heals kept me up for as long as they could and I popped it with enough time to hit 1 HP twice before Twintania went down(I was at 86 HP at the end).

[WiseWolfHolo]

Holmgang, ah I only use it when too lazy to move and a push back skill is coming, other than that maybe the 10% of the time I use it is to maybe save myself, but if it got to that point that means the healer cannot keep up so without benediction or lustrate, if I do not have convalescence it is pretty much gg and goodnight.

Foresight, right now is like a 9% mitigation(well that is what I have been told) but wait until higher ilvls which means more defense and greater scaling for it(I hope)

[OmegaSinX]

but wait until higher ilvls which means more defense and greater scaling for it(I hope)

I doubt it. With better gear comes harder hitting content. Wicked Wheels & Death Sentences, Yay.

[Davkis]

this is funny. warriors got buffed alot and they still complain. u dont see us pld asking for more dps or tweaking our skills right. man people will never be satisfied with what they are given. all they want is mememememe.

[Kitru]

u dont see us pld asking for more dps or tweaking our skills right.

Yes, you do. There are loads of PLDs asking for changes to Shield Swipe, complaining about the delay on Hallowed Ground, talking about how PLD needs a t3 combo that isn't high enmity, and/or bitching about how Cure is worthless to them. PLDs aren't innocent of complaining about their own class.

I'm surprised that you think that classes are perfectly fine exactly as they are all the time or after only a single revision. Classes and jobs are constantly tweaked to make them more playable and more balanced, which is exactly what WARs have been complaining about here: Foresight is a completely laughable survivability CD and Holmgang tries to do so many things that once that it doesn't really manage to do any of them well. Both of them are legitimate concerns that the devs should honestly look into addressing because, otherwise, Foresight will simply remain a laughably useless tank CD and Holmgang will never be as useful as it *should* be given that it's supposed to have rough parity with HG.

[Davkis]

@kitry u just proved my point. if they r so bad play a diff class.