Raimdelle Reborn: The Neverending Bestiary

[Anonymoose]

Thanks for the kind words and new info! I've decided to go the Google Docs route. I'm going to start building the spreadsheet now. If anybody knows how to work Google Spreadsheets and would like access to view/edit, feel free to drop me an email via Gamer Escape.

In the meantime, here's another one that's driving me crazy.

Originally introduced as Flan, the genus now seems to be referred to as Pudding, as multiple colors are referred to as such (including their drop item). However, each individual color seems to have the name of another custardy snack food according to Treasure Hunt.

[RolandDebreton]

Had a chance to play around with the Battlecraft leves a bit more and thought I'd add a few things:

40 leve, Got a Gut Feeling about This - Tauri, Demon (Voidsent), Tauri
40 leve, Pets are Family Too - Hound, Beastkin, Wolf
40 leve, Pets are Family Too - Cat, Beastkin, ?Cat?
40 leve, Pets are Family Too - Snowshoe Mouse, Beastkin, Marmot
40 leve, Talk to My Voidsent - Vodoriga Snatcher, Voidsent, Vodoriga?
40 leve, Talk to My Voidsent - Hallow Gargoyle, Voidsent, Gargoyle
40 leve, Talk to My Voidsent - Wrathful Ogre, Voidsent, Ogre


As an aside, I'm beginning to wonder if Voidsent isn't going to turn out to be a very big ugly catch all. It seems, rather the regnum/class, Transcendent/Voidsent turns out to be more of 'geographical' distinction. That is to say there are "voidsent" Hippocerfs, that are in actuality Bloodborn -> Beastkin -> Hippogryph -> Species of Hippocerf from the Void (region of origin - species ripped from the terrestrial plane and transported to the nether-realms of the void - rather than classification).

There are too many Voidsent that fit into other regnum, leading me to wonder if the Spoken class won't capture things like Kindred/Demons, Ogres won't turn out to be a Beastkin. Heck, that lore blurb you put up from Flan, from 1.0 hints that they are Voidsent who may be Spoken.

[Anonymoose]

Also, to all interested I created this off my Onenote file I keep on such things

If you plan on following the chart in the OP to make that, you should request view access to this doc, which is basically the same thing you're doing, since that's where I'll be updating from now on. That chart was not at all user friendly after it got to a certain length, so I'll have to go back to it when it's just a one-and-done instead of a constant revision.

[RolandDebreton]

Sent req for access. First name is in e-mail, Jeremy.

[Anonymoose]

A small update for anybody who's just lurking, I've decided what to do. The Google Doc will remain closed until I make the first complete pass (up to the letter D M so far) unless you want to email and request viewing privileges early so you can keep hunting. Along the way, I'll be coding in all of the links to XIVMODELS' unique Model + Palette visuals and marking the cells as confirmed, inferred, and guessed. After the first complete pass, I'll publish it as View Only and we'll keep discussing how to improve it here (keep looking for hints in the meantime if you'd like, it's not wasted effort!). At that time, people can just request editing privileges via my GE email address and we'll see if we can't get this baby to 100%. I'd open it right up as-is... but every time somebody tries something like that, it's a vandalized mess in an hour flat.

[Kyan]

Yes, fair call. Great work you are doing!

I'll keep-a-readin' my leves and FATEs, as I am on a mission to conquer them all!

[Grayve]

Amazing work. Definitely going to be keeping an eye on this thread, and looking forward to perusing the gdoc once it's ready for public consumption.

[RolandDebreton]

Compared my notes to your master:

Scalekin > Tortoise (Adamantoise, Giant Tortoise)

Vilekin > Ladybug (Ladybug, Little Ladybug); Firefly (Firefly – maybe extinct remembered from 1.0 classed as different that wisp); Sandworm (Sandworm); Slug (Slug, Hare); Yarzon (Bog, Sand Yarzon)

Wavekin > Gigantoad (Toad, Gigantoad, Nix); Snipper (Snipper, Clipper)

Confirmed from various leves except Firefly, that’s just a 1.0 throwback as I have no notes on them.

I’ve got notes indicating Bats are considered Cloudkin – I do not have a listed leve or text to prove it.

I also believe I’ve seen Dragonkin listed as a heading under Spoken by dev confirmation.

Edit:

Seedkin > Ochu (Microchu, ochu); Treant (Treant, Dryad, Treant Sapling); Sapling (Sapling)

[Anonymoose]

Compared my notes to your master:

We've come to a lot of the same conclusions.

The ladybugs were a little fuzzy, but based on the V1.0 items and cross-species quest names, eventually I came up with the Species "Weevil" and "Ladybug," and Genus "Beetle," towards which both genera make references (Carrion Beetle, Beet-Red Beetles Beat Red).

I, too, was unsure whether to put bats in cloudkin or beastkin, as far as Eorzeans are concerned. For now, I actually gave Eorzean naturalists the benefit of the doubt and went with beastkin (land mammals) despite their wingedness, as they categorized dodos as cloudkin despite their flightlessness. One of the bats is also named a wingrat, which implies they know of the winged rat nickname based on their mammalian nature, lol. Still, it could go either way in reality.

Dragons and I are still having trouble. Territorial Dragon and Svara are both referred to as "dragon" to name two. It might not even end up a genus name. Coincidentally, the two I just mentioned as an example were both referred to as wyrms in previous Final Fantasies, so the struggle continues. At least we know wyvern! Hey, wait, that refers to wyverns as a relative of dragons. And now I've gone cross-eyed.

Up to M now. Should be able to open the 0.1 version of that chart for discussion within a few days

Any idea how to tell an ochu from a microchu? This Microchu and Curupira, "an especially savage microchu," use both palletes (womp womp). Maybe the FATE just uses the wrong model? A lot of the other Ochu / Microchu line up. Maybe it was accidentally switched with Lazy Laurence, clearly a Microchu to match the named one... but then if the Ochu referenced in that FATE description is a genus and not a species, it's still correct, technically, and look, I've gone cross-eyed, again.

[Kyan]

Any idea how to tell an ochu from a microchu?

This one bothers me too. I am certain there is a leve/FATE/npc that informs you that microchu are technically "baby ochu" and thus not really being two separate things. Yet we see Alpha Microchu and other large Microchu in FATE, etc. Twelve be damned!

Can we not all pool our crystals and wish really hard for Raimdelle to return to Eorzea - if not for a little while?