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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    and to jennestia statement, the game needs content it was the most highly voted on thing in the poll. battle was number 2.
    Correction -- it was the highest voted in the west. In the east it was the battle system and socialization -- making both of them equal concerns. However the game's problems lie beyond lack of content. The game needs content but it also needs a better foundation to build said content on or it would be meaningless.

    A lot of people said "just give us something to do", so they gave us side quests and guildtasks, people still complained so they can't just give us content to give us content, they literally have to "strike gold" every time based on how to the community, they do everything wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    A lot of people said "just give us something to do", so they gave us side quests and guildtasks, people still complained so they can't just give us content to give us content, they literally have to "strike gold" every time based on how to the community, they do everything wrong.
    Well, when they've scored so terribly from Beta to date, it does make sense that they have to knock a few out of the park in a row to raise the average. By any metric you can use, the pace at which *anything* is coming out, whether it's content or changes, is glacial. And this is considering that they've got some content clearly stacked in the corner that they're holding onto for some reason.

    All signs point to SE hoarding content for the PS3 release, in my mind, and the two new dungeons are just throwing us a bone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    Well, when they've scored so terribly from Beta to date, it does make sense that they have to knock a few out of the park in a row to raise the average. By any metric you can use, the pace at which *anything* is coming out, whether it's content or changes, is glacial. And this is considering that they've got some content clearly stacked in the corner that they're holding onto for some reason.

    All signs point to SE hoarding content for the PS3 release, in my mind, and the two new dungeons are just throwing us a bone.
    Yeah. It's why I hope the dungeons are long lasting or constantly updated (tier wise maybe) till the PS3 release, which it does feel like they're holding out for it to give a reason to pick up the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Correction -- it was the highest voted in the west. In the east it was the battle system and socialization -- making both of them equal concerns. However the game's problems lie beyond lack of content. The game needs content but it also needs a better foundation to build said content on or it would be meaningless.

    A lot of people said "just give us something to do", so they gave us side quests and guildtasks, people still complained so they can't just give us content to give us content, they literally have to "strike gold" every time based on how to the community, they do everything wrong.

    the east overall voted battle and the west overall voted content, but total number of players votes? content overall.

    and guild tasks? can only be called a place holder, how else do you explain a system that only has items up to rank 10 and gives you less exp than you can get with 1 synth. If that is their idea of content ..... its really sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    the east overall voted battle and the west overall voted content, but total number of players votes? content overall.

    and guild tasks? can only be called a place holder, how else do you explain a system that only has items up to rank 10 and gives you less exp than you can get with 1 synth. If that is their idea of content ..... its really sad.
    I was really surprised the system didn't give out guild marks. It seems like the original intent was to make it a gil sink but then they never finished it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Correction -- it was the highest voted in the west. In the east it was the battle system and socialization -- making both of them equal concerns. However the game's problems lie beyond lack of content. The game needs content but it also needs a better foundation to build said content on or it would be meaningless.

    A lot of people said "just give us something to do", so they gave us side quests and guildtasks, people still complained so they can't just give us content to give us content, they literally have to "strike gold" every time based on how to the community, they do everything wrong.
    i love the cherry picking of numbers to suit your case. that fact is the overall number of people taken in the total poll wanted content first. my house voted along with the majority of the total players not the players in one particular region. you can argue that it is a east vs west thing all you want, but the MAJORITY overall voted in line with the west. it is not an equal concern when the MAJORITY votes and the vote results are to one side. equal would be if one side voted one way and the other voted the other and the results came out to an overall even number of votes total.
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    Just wanted to pop in and say, Thanks to the OP for the translation. Very much appreciated. It's good to know the JP side shares our concerns, and it's good to know that the dev team is aware of those concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i love the cherry picking of numbers to suit your case. that fact is the overall number of people taken in the total poll wanted content first. my house voted along with the majority of the total players not the players in one particular region. you can argue that it is a east vs west thing all you want, but the MAJORITY overall voted in line with the west. it is not an equal concern when the MAJORITY votes and the vote results are to one side. equal would be if one side voted one way and the other voted the other and the results came out to an overall even number of votes total.
    The problem is they can't do content first and then do the battle system after because then all that content they added would need adjusting. Plus without a good battle system a lot of content would be lacking. I am glad SE did things this way around, they are fixing the core of the game first and then once that is complete they can add content, content and even more content for the rest of the games life.

    It does suck for us that have to wait and play with hardly any content but SE made the right decision on tackling the problems. If it will all be worth it though is something we will have to wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i love the cherry picking of numbers to suit your case.
    When someone makes a blanket statement that the highest number of votes were for content when the poll itself was broken down regionally, you have to take into consideration both regions and what she did was refer to the fact it was NA/EU that wanted content over everything else while Japan was tipped towards Battle System and Socializing.

    For someone talking about cherry picking:

    you can argue that it is a east vs west thing all you want, but the MAJORITY overall voted in line with the west.
    You sure like to pick the point that the western votes seem to be more important when ironically, the biggest player base is infact the Japanese base at this point in time given the situation. It actually sounds like you're trying to say the Japanese votes don't matter. I'll even elaborate on this.

    NA = USA, Mexico and Canada.
    EU = Many, Many countries like Germany, France, Demark, England etc etc.
    Japan = Japan. There's islands but, Japan in itself is an island nation with no segregated nations like EU for example.

    Therefore, the "majority" votes means nothing when you take into consideration NA/EU have twice the amount of voters than Japan does just on a logistics scale, however Japan's majority vote were infact not for content, but majority of NA's votes were for content, while EU was tipping towards content and various other things.

    I can promise you Blizzard wouldn't ignore what the NA gamers want and focus on what the chinese gamers want and as far as I'm concerned, China has more people than 10 Americas ontop of each other.
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    self-motivated contents like company-based projects, exploration, and combat/pvp is more efficient development-wise, considering that the content is repeatable without seeming unnatural (unlike guildleves and instances, for example).
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