What was all that about making ships and big cakes? (Translated with Q/A from rep)

[darkstarpoet1]

Correction -- it was the highest voted in the west. In the east it was the battle system and socialization -- making both of them equal concerns. However the game's problems lie beyond lack of content. The game needs content but it also needs a better foundation to build said content on or it would be meaningless.

A lot of people said "just give us something to do", so they gave us side quests and guildtasks, people still complained so they can't just give us content to give us content, they literally have to "strike gold" every time based on how to the community, they do everything wrong.

i love the cherry picking of numbers to suit your case. that fact is the overall number of people taken in the total poll wanted content first. my house voted along with the majority of the total players not the players in one particular region. you can argue that it is a east vs west thing all you want, but the MAJORITY overall voted in line with the west. it is not an equal concern when the MAJORITY votes and the vote results are to one side. equal would be if one side voted one way and the other voted the other and the results came out to an overall even number of votes total.

[AlexiaKidd]

i love the cherry picking of numbers to suit your case. that fact is the overall number of people taken in the total poll wanted content first. my house voted along with the majority of the total players not the players in one particular region. you can argue that it is a east vs west thing all you want, but the MAJORITY overall voted in line with the west. it is not an equal concern when the MAJORITY votes and the vote results are to one side. equal would be if one side voted one way and the other voted the other and the results came out to an overall even number of votes total.

The problem is they can't do content first and then do the battle system after because then all that content they added would need adjusting. Plus without a good battle system a lot of content would be lacking. I am glad SE did things this way around, they are fixing the core of the game first and then once that is complete they can add content, content and even more content for the rest of the games life.

It does suck for us that have to wait and play with hardly any content but SE made the right decision on tackling the problems. If it will all be worth it though is something we will have to wait and see.

[giftforce]

The problem is they can't do content first and then do the battle system after because then all that content they added would need adjusting. Plus without a good battle system a lot of content would be lacking. I am glad SE did things this way around, they are fixing the core of the game first and then once that is complete they can add content, content and even more content for the rest of the games life.

It does suck for us that have to wait and play with hardly any content but SE made the right decision on tackling the problems. If it will all be worth it though is something we will have to wait and see.

Why you need combat to make a cake and be on a boat.

[AlexiaKidd]

Why you need combat to make a cake and be on a boat.

Because it was all tied into the Company system and they couldn't very well launch the Grand Companies with just cake and boats could they. Well that might have actually been pretty cool but you can see the point ^^

[darkstarpoet1]

The problem is they can't do content first and then do the battle system after because then all that content they added would need adjusting. Plus without a good battle system a lot of content would be lacking. I am glad SE did things this way around, they are fixing the core of the game first and then once that is complete they can add content, content and even more content for the rest of the games life.

It does suck for us that have to wait and play with hardly any content but SE made the right decision on tackling the problems. If it will all be worth it though is something we will have to wait and see.

who said anything about battle content? content is anything to do in game. if it is not battle it does not need to be adjusted, but yoshi and his team are not smart enough to figure this out.

For someone talking about cherry picking:

You sure like to pick the point that the western votes seem to be more important when ironically, the biggest player base is infact the Japanese base at this point in time given the situation. It actually sounds like you're trying to say the Japanese votes don't matter. I'll even elaborate on this.

get facts straight then talk to me. she corrected someone for saying the majority voted for content and stated they were wrong. sorry but that statement was correct and she used cherry picking to state he was wrong. the majority of overall players voted for content and that is a fact. that is not cherry picking it is going by the total results.

[Elexia]

get facts straight then talk to me.

Take a look here:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...98e4034b898102

Then again, as Physic is basically saying, Japan's results don't matter.

If you do a survey to see what your playerbase wants, and the playerbase says content. It means content is the most important thing to you re player base.

Western base has main concern about content (we are going by numbers, right?)

Eastern base main concern was battle system (we are going by numbers, right?)

He uses the we had to wait on battle as blanket answer to explain and excuse all the games flaws. Its just bull, there is obviously some inaccuracy here, either he is failing totally and utterly as a developer, or he is just telling people things to mollify them, because the overall strategy they are planning isnt one players would like to hear.

You're just a heavy conspiracy theorist to be honest.

"It's all a lie!"

So serious question ~

Poll: What do you feel the game needs more?
A. Content
B. Battle Overhaul
C. More cat women.

If NA has 80% Votes for Content, EU has 67.7% votes for content and Japan has 70% votes for Battle Overhaul, would you say Content is what the majority wants? Simply because two different bases vote for the same thing? I think the problem you're having is you're lumping NA and EU together to say they're the "majority".

Majority of Japanese votes went towards Battle system, so by the logic laid out in this thread, Battle system overhaul is what the majority wants.

[Jennestia]

get facts straight then talk to me. she corrected someone for saying the majority voted for content and stated they were wrong. sorry but that statement was correct and she used cherry picking to state he was wrong. the majority of overall players voted for content and that is a fact. that is not cherry picking it is going by the total results.

How am I cherry picking? The majority of NA/EU and equivalent countries voted for content over everything else. The majority of Japan voted for Battle overhaul over content.

You do realize there are multiple player bases, right? So the correction is infact a correction -- West feels content is most important change needed and the east felt battle system was as it beat out content in votes. That's not cherry picking unless you're really stating Japan's playerbase is "the minority".

France had the highest vote for lack of in-game content coming in at 50.9%, which means French players make up the majority of the game's player base?

I really don't understand.

[Joeking]

How am I cherry picking? The majority of NA/EU and equivalent countries voted for content over everything else. The majority of Japan voted for Battle overhaul over content.

You do realize there are multiple player bases, right? So the correction is infact a correction -- West feels content is most important change needed and the east felt battle system was as it beat out content in votes. That's not cherry picking unless you're really stating Japan's playerbase is "the minority".

Japanese Company

Japanese Players > Everyone Else.

[darkstarpoet1]

How am I cherry picking? The majority of NA/EU and equivalent countries voted for content over everything else. The majority of Japan voted for Battle overhaul over content.

You do realize there are multiple player bases, right? So the correction is infact a correction -- West feels content is most important change needed and the east felt battle system was as it beat out content in votes. That's not cherry picking unless you're really stating Japan's playerbase is "the minority".

France had the highest vote for lack of in-game content coming in at 50.9%, which means French players make up the majority of the game's player base?

I really don't understand.

how are you cherry picking? how are you not? if 1000 people were asked a question and 670 of the 1000 voted for something then the 670 is the majority. it is saying that more people want something. you corrected someone for saying that the majority of overall people voted for content. that is fact.you cherry picked japan out because it was the answer you wanted.

if the overall total wanted battle first then it would be correct to correct him, but by picking out numbers to change the results you are cherry picking results.

i will use your line of thinking. the majority of mississippi residents voted for mccain to be president. it doesn't matter that the overall majority of people voted for obama mccain is the president. do you see this same logic used in this scenario. i cherry picked mississippi and said they wanted one thing while the majority of the voters voted for something else.

[Physic]

how are you cherry picking? how are you not? if 1000 people were asked a question and 670 of the 1000 voted for something then the 670 is the majority. it is saying that more people want something. you corrected someone for saying that the majority of overall people voted for content. that is fact.you cherry picked japan out because it was the answer you wanted.

if the overall total wanted battle first then it would be correct to correct him, but by picking out numbers to change the results you are cherry picking results.

i will use your line of thinking. the majority of mississippi residents voted for mccain to be president. it doesn't matter that the overall majority of people voted for obama mccain is the president. do you see this same logic used in this scenario. i cherry picked mississippi and said they wanted one thing while the majority of the voters voted for something else.

sometimes i wonder if elexia and jennestia are just playing a role. this is completely accurate, the poll very clearly shows, exactly what percent of people polled wanted content. it is teh majority of people hands down, no argument.
even on the jp side, it shows that content is a strong desire even in japan.

He chose to to battle first for his own reasons, but the truth is, what the game needed more than anything else was content. no where did it say that battle needed to be totally reworked either, that was his own choice, what was said was that it needed to be improved. Hes the executive, he is payed to make descions that is fine, but dont believe the hype that this was the only way to go.

And the real problem is not even his plan, the problem is he is this slow in executing it. Content, according to his plan is still a far way off. probably 1.20 at absolute best, which at his current rate of progress, is 5-7 months away. And they still havent even come up with a time frame for LS fixes, player companies or etc.
in fact by his own predictions, battle wont be finished till 1.20, crazy really.

edited : to be 1.20 and a little more optomistic on time frame