I want Wyverns back!!

[SinnersCreed]

WHat the hell are you all talking about?!! first off having a tough rotation? freaking whiney cry baby, geez have none of you ever played any other rpgmmo?!!! holy crap drg rotation is cake compared to some of the other games I play, mainly bc pvp requires you to think on the fly while completing rotations that you have to switch up all the time... and micro managing a pet? for fcks sake they made it so it coincides with the drgs abilities in ff11, how would that be hard to copy? I'm beginning to think coming back to ff was a mistake after reading all of your responses. you must almost all suck terribly lol. And to be perfectly honest I see DRG as having a ton of utility. meaning well suited for multiple scenarios if played right

[PArcher]

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Lv37 LNC...

Yeah...none of the classes are hard at that level...

And no...DRG have only 2 things that can be considered "utility"; Stuns (Leg Sweep/Spineshatter Dive...only if you need stuns and the tank doesn't do it) and Disembowel (only if you have a BRD in party)...


Also, DRG traditionally JUMP, not have pets...

[SinnersCreed]

Lv37 LNC...

Yeah...none of the classes are hard at that level...

And no...DRG have only 2 things that can be considered "utility"; Stuns (Leg Sweep/Spineshatter Dive...only if you need stuns and the tank doesn't do it) and Disembowel (only if you have a BRD in party)...


Also, DRG traditionally JUMP, not have pets...

Dont be so retarded... dont you think that I already looked up rotation and seen the 24 button cycle? found the off cycles and checked stat priorities, mat builds? if you check my original post it says that I have been playing these games for over 14 years... pretty sure I know wtf I'm talking about, thx.

[PArcher]

Dont be so retarded... dont you think that I already looked up rotation and seen the 24 button cycle? found the off cycles and checked stat priorities, mat builds? if you check my original post it says that I have been playing these games for over 14 years... pretty sure I know wtf I'm talking about, thx.

Yep...no experience in this game, but you've played other RPGs/MMOs before so you're an expert.

Just because I've been playing FPSs for over 20 years doesn't mean I'm the best person out there and will dominate every match I'm in


EDIT: also, saying you looked up a guide so you're an expert is still silly...how many people have watched Titan EX/Turn 5 vids yet can't clear them?

[SinnersCreed]

[QUOTE=PArcher;1913263]Yep...no experience in this game, but you've played other RPGs/MMOs before so you're an expert.

Just because I've been playing FPSs for over 20 years doesn't mean I'm the best person out there and will dominate every match I'm in

EDIT: also, saying you looked up a guide so you're an expert is still silly...how many people have watched Titan EX/Turn 5 vids yet can't clear them?

First off I never claimed to be an expert after reading a guide, second off if you are trying to tell me that this game is so different that I wouldn't understand how rotations with buffs and debuffs which require timing work well you can stop right there. I know all I need to know about the game to make eduacated guesses and the only thing I don't know is the timing because I havent hit 50 yet. Big deal...

[Gamemako]

Ishgard military is made up of Dragoons this is true and you come up with good points. But like any city they could be people within ishgard that no longer believe in killing dragoons they find and build there own small city and a new job is born. One that no longer kills them but befriends and learn how to fight along side them. You think that SE can't come up with some bull why this happens?

They can, but the story takes you into Coerthas alongside the fanatical inquisitors who execute people on mere suspicion of sympathy for the dragons. You can't possibly go back to the city-state of Ishgard after you've befriended a wyvern -- all Ishgardians who see you would be obligated to attack on sight. Reconciliation would be technically possible, but then you would have to separate the players who completed that stage from those who have not, so that you aren't discussing the inquisition right next to some guy traipsing about with a dragon over his shoulder.

Also you keep talking about how you have a movement heavy job attempting to simultaneously control a pet. I don't think that a issue at all the pet could do it's own thing for the most part.

Long story short, they don't. Your pet does not differentiate between standing in the fire and not standing in the fire. It can't make a judgment as to when it should be on the platform and when it can afford to take a few points of damage to get across. It doesn't enjoy heals like everything else and can't be directly targeted by your healers. You can spot a fledgling SMN from a mile away; their pets die very, very frequently.

I'm sorry but I'm all for the way jobs were structured in classic FF titles, and I hate to break it to you but Dragoons never had wyvern pets.

The very first dragoons, from FF2, were wyvern-riders. The Emperor wiped them out, along with the wyverns.

First off I never claimed to be an expert after reading a guide, second off if you are trying to tell me that this game is so different that I wouldn't understand how rotations with buffs and debuffs which require timing work well you can stop right there. I know all I need to know about the game to make eduacated guesses and the only thing I don't know is the timing because I havent hit 50 yet. Big deal...

Having not played DRG at endgame, you've never had to fit your rotation into the many mechanics designed to stop you from doing so. You are telling everyone how easy something is without having done it.

[SinnersCreed]

Having not played DRG at endgame, you've never had to fit your rotation into the many mechanics designed to stop you from doing so. You are telling everyone how easy something is without having done it.[/QUOTE]

Granted I have never done it on this game, and I never actually said it was "easy" just said everyone shouldn't make it sound like its the hardest thing ever, However My point remains the same : I DO understand how rotations with buffs and debuffs which require timing work" and The fact thatI haven't done them yet is hardly discrediting to my understanding of the basics AND complexities of an atb with buffs, debuffs and counters, defensive and offensive CDs and GCDs. it's basically like saying I dont know how to drive a European car if I am from America. There is only so much I would need to learn and most of which I can make eduacated guesses.

[Zenaku]

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It seem no matter what people say you against seem to be a thing in any topic when people want something to be added. It's a MMO from 1.0 to 2.0 patch the storyline have been change many times to the point that it no longer fit together. They could easy make it work there no issue they may not add it now maybe not in 2years but at some point they could. If it make people happy and add more to the game i don't see why not. Stop thinking so close minded let people enjoy the game and request what they want.

If it does not work yoshi-p would say no and that it but too then why not talk about it and come up with ways they could add it. Second Class with a job that have a wyvern or add it on lancer as a second job does not matter as long as they add more jobs and more storyline i be happy.

[SinnersCreed]

I'm sure there are a lot of people that just screw it up terribly, because they are either new to the style, are very young, lazy, or just not capable. but I'm not one of those people, I always do my research and I practice with damage calculators to verify rotations and could probably write strategy guides on this game with a lot of boring work. I just need to punch in numbers.. pretty simple but a lot of work.
Sadly ANYONE has the same ability but most don't care or are too lazy. So say what you want about my experience in this game, but I would be willing to bet a good sum that any non pvp rotation in ff14 couldn't possibly be more complex than most of the macros I have set up for some of my other games.

[Mhaeric]

Dont be so retarded... dont you think that I already looked up rotation and seen the 24 button cycle? found the off cycles and checked stat priorities, mat builds? if you check my original post it says that I have been playing these games for over 14 years... pretty sure I know wtf I'm talking about, thx.

Doubtful, because you sound like you're only 14 years old let alone played MMOs for that long. But I get it. You like to be big and mighty on the internet with your swearing and trash talk. Its unfortunate, because I was going to respond to your first post constructively. But since I can't read any of what you wrote in any posts after that without imagining it being said with a cracking voice and only one hand on the keyboard, you get this instead.

Cheers.