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  1. #171
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    I hope the higer rank dungeon doesn't 'require' a full party of 8. My LS is currently too small for this. If this is, in fact, the case, starting to look a little like ffxi, where joining certain 'event' LS's may be required (dynamis, einherjar, salvage, sky, sea, etc.). IMHO it would be nice if these prorated down according to the size of your party, as opposed to forcing a full party of 8, kind of like how behest scales down, depending on party size. I mean even in ffxi, aside from a minimum, these events didn't 'require' a full party set.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_ View Post
    Since the merger, everything not Dragon Quest, includes:
    • Drakengard
    • Drakengard 2
    • Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
    • Final Fantasy XII
    • Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
    • Front Mission 4
    • Grandia III
    • Kingdom Hearts II
    • Nier
    • Radiata Stories
    • Romancing SaGa
    • Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
    • The Last Remnant
    • The World Ends With You
    • Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

    For starters. That's a lot of games that aren't Dragon Quest and didn't flop.

    Sounds to me like someone's judgement is biased by emotion.
    FFXIII should be on that list too. It may not have been well received by fans, but, by definition, it was still a commercial success.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Did I say that it would? I love how people who are wrong in what they say try to twist the words of anyone that doesn't agree with them. I will say it again, "There is a difference between the losses they are posting from their PROFITS and a company that is close to bankruptcy."

    Profits are defined by money earned in EXCESS of all other costs that company has incurred. The fact that they are posting a profit means by definition that they aren't all that close to bankruptcy because they are earning enough to cover their costs and still have some profit to show for it. Not to mention that they have enough to cover the .8 BILLION yen they incurred directly as a result to the earthquakes and tsunamis.

    If you spout baseless and false 'facts' then expect to be called on them.
    Ditto. I didn't say they were bankrupt, they were going bankrupt, bankruptcy....which is accurate when a company has a 76% loss in profits and projects that unless they get a hail mary pass they will continue in a downward decline. I love how when people complain about things being accurate don't bother to be accurate. Do they have a profit yes, are they still hemorrhaging money, yes. Just because they are not currently bankrupt saying they are headed that way is not inaccurate or false. If the recover or have recovered/are recovering in the last month or 2 since that announcement than yes and I will gladly concede defeat if you can show that to me.

    But ya know what it's all fine. You continue to get angry at me and other people on the forum instead of discussing. Your comment to Rabidsquirrel was rude and uncalled for, and for someone that called for constructive criticism in the specific forum...was that really it?
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  4. #174
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    FFXIII is really fun imho, Im currently playing it right now =)
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzapp View Post
    I hope the higer rank dungeon doesn't 'require' a full party of 8. My LS is currently too small for this. If this is, in fact, the case, starting to look a little like ffxi, where joining certain 'event' LS's may be required (dynamis, einherjar, salvage, sky, sea, etc.). IMHO it would be nice if these prorated down according to the size of your party, as opposed to forcing a full party of 8, kind of like how behest scales down, depending on party size. I mean even in ffxi, aside from a minimum, these events didn't 'require' a full party set.
    I honestly hope the opposite

    I want a variety of fights 4-8-16-24 people.

    Alot of people want different things, Some people love lowmanning (anything less then 8), some love large scale battles (Typical MMO raid styles).

    If you linkshell cannot manage 8 people... well you probably need to do 2 things. Recruit more member into your linkshell, or join an event linkshell.
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  6. #176
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    _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    FFXIII should be on that list too. It may not have been well received by fans, but, by definition, it was still a commercial success.
    Probably yeah. I just didn't want to open up the can of "well if your definition of 'not a flop' is a crappy game like FFXIII" worms. And besides, it's nowhere near a comprehensive list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaux View Post
    Ditto. I didn't say they were bankrupt, they were going bankrupt, bankruptcy....which is accurate when a company has a 76% loss in profits and projects that unless they get a hail mary pass they will continue in a downward decline. I love how when people complain about things being accurate don't bother to be accurate. Do they have a profit yes, are they still hemorrhaging money, yes. Just because they are not currently bankrupt saying they are headed that way is not inaccurate or false. If the recover or have recovered/are recovering in the last month or 2 since that announcement than yes and I will gladly concede defeat if you can show that to me.

    But ya know what it's all fine. You continue to get angry at me and other people on the forum instead of discussing. Your comment to Rabidsquirrel was rude and uncalled for, and for someone that called for constructive criticism in the specific forum...was that really it?
    loss of profits effects your perceived value rather than your actual value as a company. If you produce real products, it doesnt matter if you go down from making 1 billion PROFIT to 700million PROFIT you are still highly profitable.
    It does however effect the value of your stock.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    FFXIII is really fun imho, Im currently playing it right now =)
    I might re-play it. It was a mixed feelings sort of game for me. Prettiest thing I have ever seen though...also interested in Versus XIII
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_ View Post
    Probably yeah. I just didn't want to open up the can of "well if your definition of 'not a flop' is a crappy game like FFXIII" worms. And besides, it's nowhere near a comprehensive list.
    No I wouldn't go that route. I might have mis-givings on it and other fans did but critics loved it and sales figures would say otherwise as well. But that list does have some "flops on it" even if the games were good. Nier being a glaring one (best game ever)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaux View Post
    Continued projection of loss of profits will make them...richer?
    Continuous doomsaying without any sort of base and sensationalistic, biased statements (like "every non sequel is a flop" or silly talks about bankrupcy) are what conflicts with your statement of " constructive non whiny feedback".
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