5 hour emergency maintenance with 10 minutes notice...

[Mur4masa]

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They sold 1.8m copies off the game and said they had 600k active subs.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...g-subscribers/

That's one of the links, I actually first read it on another website. Still looking for it, it was on their facebook page.

[Nero]

They sold 1.8m copies off the game and said they had 600k active subs.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...g-subscribers/

That's one of the links, I actually first read it on another website. Still looking for it, it was on their facebook page.

Yeah, i've seen that, but note that it is from early November 2013, so basically 4 full Months ago.



This one is from 2 weeks ago: click

"And with nearly two million active subscribers, you won’t find yourself wanting for company, either. Enjoy!"

Another recent one: click

" Since then, the game boasts a healthy 1.8 million active subscribers."

We can argue back and forth if that is total sales or actual active subs, or if they just say "active subs" out of the blue, so i hope SE does the same they did in XI and do a yearly Census, which will include the actual official numbers. Not to mention SE is "back into blacks" thanks to XIV and i am not sure, if that would have been possible with just "total sales" and 600k subs. But yeah.. lets just wait for official numbers.

[Mur4masa]

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That 1.8m number is just fishy. When they released the 600k active subs number the front page still said "1.8m players" I know just from being on different servers and watching entire fcs/ls go. You can feel the difference between when it first released (when I'd say it was easily over 600k people playing) and now.

I just don't see how they went from selling 1.8m copies to coincidentally having 1.8m subs

[Marishi-Ten]

Not to mention SE is "back into blacks" thanks to XIV and i am not sure, if that would have been possible with just "total sales" and 600k subs. But yeah.. lets just wait for official numbers.

You gotta read in between the lines on those financial reports. It's unbelievable the amount of flexibility the government gives companies when it comes to reporting their quarterly financial results. They have to disclose if the reports are GAAP or Non GAAP:

Non GAAP - Gross reports (before taxes, interest, blah, blah, blah)
GAAP - Net reports (the actual walk away profit/loss when everything is said and done)

Black in Non GAAP doesn't mean you're making any money. You're likely still bleeding revenue especially if your margin is razor thin.