Why do people hate on tanky healers?

[NintenPyjak64]

Orbs in ultima are mitigated by more people it just at once meaning less healing over time. Looking at every example you give, you only "saved the day" because you ran with horrible players. There is no excuse for a high voltage going off or hellfire being full power. The people in charge of making sure this doesn't happen were doing it wrong.

By doing what you're doing, people won't learn from their mistakes. You're essentially giving everybody a trophy for participating, it's doing more harm then good. If DPS don't kill the nails, it doesn't matter if people have Allagan or not. The group as a whole failed to disrupt a mechanic they should have learned at level 22. It's a group effort. You would not feel the need to pump out so much vit if your groups worked together and did their roles better. If you wipe, then respawn, talk with the group, find out what went wrong, why it went wrong and try again. If any advice falls on deaf ears, then god help them.

/end rant. Sorry for coming off as harsh but this is the cold truth. It's never pleasant hearing stuff like this, but there's so many threads about stuff like this (E.g. the ACN > SMN thread that was mentioned a few posts back) that it's agitating. Why I continue to prowl these forums is a mystery even to me.

Unfortunately this game was built with Cookie Cutter in mind considering how much it takes from WoW. Having a Spell Speed WHM or Determination WHM could be related to having a Shadow Priest and/or (whatever the healer priest is called, I forget)

[horaiyo]

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Basically this. The simple fact of the matter is that you’re building your char operating under the assumption that your team is going to fail at their roles and that you need to compensate for it, and that’s really not a good mentality. There are only a handful of encounters in the game that have any sort of “hp check”, and none of those require a caster to have over 5k hp. You’re only coming across situations that “require” that much hp because your group as a whole is not executing properly. If you were to join a competent group that was executing properly, all the vit you stacked would be useless and you’d be a 5k hp whm whose healing output is lower than a normal darklight-geared whm (my cures average about 150-175 higher than yours).

That said, as other people have noted, you’re free to play however you want. Lots of people do fights with non-standard setups and builds, so if you find like-minded people then more power to you. Just understand that people aren’t required to agree with your play style and are free to boot you in favor of someone else.

[Heofonum]

You're making a build to try and make yourself out to be a hero. It seems every encounter you're in is destined to be all heart-attack healing and full raid rez rebuffs.

You've not discovered some hidden WHM build. You haven't found a secret technique that only you have mastered. Your approach to WHM isn't original, creative or beneficial in any way, shape, form or fashion. You are not constructively unique.

You might as well be of the mindset that knowing how to Cleric Stance dance makes you a good healer too.

I am not sorry for this post, as others seemed to be of theirs in here.

All that aside, I think you're a troll.

[Yumi_umi]

>.> but its funnnn, that aside.
I know what u guys mean, and once again i\\\\\\'ll say that i wouldn\\\\\\'t do this in a serious "omg coil pro team " standards group.
But in DF people have so little patience with wiping like they use to be, so i rather try my best to prevent that by obviously healing to my fullest with said stats and time divine seal / shroud to compensate for lack of mp, healing potency, etc.
Also its fun playing the hero as most healers now a days seem like mindless cut and paste healing bots.
Also what made me start this build was cuz i back then i heard a whm tank titan hm. I thought that was amazing and wanted to try that myself someday. Being a somewhat fresh 50 before felt like i wanted to be the very best at healing with the highest heals.
But soon after i started to get bored as i see a lot of whms and schs running around with the same gear.

[Yumi_umi]

Also no one needs to be sorry about their posts, it's all just advice/ personal experiences u guys r tying to tell me. So yeah don't worry i'm not gonna go crazy and mess up everyone's day.

[NintenPyjak64]

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Again I'll say it again. You're doing more harm then good. Honestly, who cares if people have little patience. If you assume everybody does, you're actually doing the harm to yourself. If I were new to an instance, I'd rather wipe over and over to learn the fight with muscle memory .Titan Ex as an example: I only watched a video once. I hopped into DF and learned the better times to Stoneskin, when to use Medica 2 or Medica 1. I also learned the BEAUTY that is Divine Seal + Swiftcast + Medica 2 while running to restack with people. This wouldn't have happened if I got carried. I've also seen other people with Primal weapons that played like they got carried or bought their win.
"Carrying" people just because you assume people don't have patience is asinine simply because you're helping to create the people like I've played with. It's these people I have little patience for not wiping over and over. As long as progress is made, even a tiny tiny bit, I won't care if all my armor's destroyed by the time we get a win. I understand 100% that you have good intentions and I can respect that, but please understand where I'm coming with this

I'm really trying my best to not sound harsh, but I can't stand seeing people who have clears yet played like they were obviously carried.

[Maku]

Like you said your build is going to work for Lower stuffs like Ifrit and Titan HM and stuffs but considering my SCH heals for almost as much as your cure2 with physick, you are for sure not pulling your weight in Coil 1 and 2 and the other healer just hasn't realized it yet because of how busy healers are in coil.

The above being said, I am all for trying new things. Heck, before they nerfed Mazurka Enmity Gain in FFXI I was a Main Tank on my BRD for my Linkshell. (BRDs got he most damage reduction gear at that time, it worked amazingly well.). THAT being said, if you already know that you are going to have to abandon your VIT build for the higher end stuff why even bother? Having to switch those 30 points all the time, you will eventually run out of FC Seals.

[Alkimi]

Turn 1 and 2 and cough* 3 is content past titan HM and it works just fine
Sometimes even better than the occasional healer lol

The correct setup for Turn 3, as anyone will tell you, is 8x PLD.

[Sebazy]

*cough*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TDzbqfEAo

I did a T5 clear whilst running that setup as well, whilst the hit to my cure throughput was noticeable, it certainly didn't make or break the run.

[Yumi_umi]

omg r u that legend tank whm? If so awesome!
How did turn 5 go with that set up?
Did it go all poop like everyone claimed it will be?
Also did ur partner healer tell u that he's doing more work than you?