Why do people hate on tanky healers?

[Yumi_umi]

Lol i think some of you guys didn't read what i posted lol.
Like ppl keep mentioning turn 4, 5 etc. and i already know that for ifrit ex regardless that i haven't tried it yet ( hence the name Extreme )
But if the whole party dies and i don't and i help recover team from a primal ultimate then isn't that a good thing ?
Also lol i love how ppl ask healers to dps, its like we can tank, dps and heal to a decent extent. A tank can't heal that well as a healer can tank, a dps can't heal as well as a healer can dps.
So asking us to do all this dps means that the party is lacking dps lol.
So yeah i see full ilvl 90's with allagan weps dying to plumes and hellfire sooo i think its still plausible to say ifrit hm isn't that much of a joke

[Lemon8or]

So yeah i see full ilvl 90's with allagan weps dying to plumes and hellfire

That just means either they or the other people they went with are bad and didn't kill fast enough. Hellfire without any nails should do minimum damage. Now if they die because they weren't at full HP, don't you think that is your fault for not healing better?
Anyone that fought their way to get their allagan weapons should not die to plumes. Ever. Unless they got it on another job and not familiar with that job's abilities.
Healers can actually do respectable DPS in Cleric Stance, nothing close to real DPS classes, but not like zero DPS.

[zaviermhigo]

You should focus more on being a good healer so in cleric stance you can help DPS things down. Every point of mind is a point of healing magic potency in cleric stance that's all attack magic. I'm healing for more than you on my sch, that shouldn't happen. In end game you need heals, when there is over healing you can then dps. Unfortunately most content in this game is a check on healers and DPS, with HP checks for tanks that you directly as a healer can help. Your job as a healer is to know when to heal, when to dodge, and when to cleric stance in this mmo. I don't wasn't too be harsh but you'd be holding parties back when it really comes down to it. It's not how you want to play its what the content needs.

I think its not that people are trying to prove you wrong, its that you are wrong, and you need to reevaluate how you want to play this game, maybe a new class/job is better, maybe you want to try out pvp, I'm sure a tanky healer might be something in pvp. But in the endgame content past titan HM this set up won't work. If you were in my party, I wouldn't be mean to you, but I would mention these things and ask for a justification, especially if the content is not going well and I as the other healer and doing most of the work. Think about the other people, put themselves in their shoes, why should they put you in their party when you aren't up to the full potential? Just think about it. Continue to play how you want, but expect hate.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

this thread is reminiscent of dual wielding WHM/NIN in a FFXI forum. there was much popcorn to be eaten there too.

[Yumi_umi]

Turn 1 and 2 and cough* 3 is content past titan HM and it works just fine
Sometimes even better than the occasional healer lol

[FJerome]

this thread is reminiscent of dual wielding WHM/NIN in a FFXI forum. there was much popcorn to be eaten there too.

Actually it's reminding me of the "Arcanists can totes keep up with Summoners!" thread going on in the DPS forum right now. Not sure if serious or coordinated trolling effort.

[Yumi_umi]

Once again try my setup
30 vit into specs and full myth / any ring higher than crafted hq ring with vit accessories.
You'll see how different it feels and how different methods open up. Like eating an orb solo in ultima HM and saving the party an orb to eat. Also i like how most people disregard the other content out of ex primals / coil turn 4&5 as invalid & super duper easy. of course its easy with a good group but in DF u never know lol.

[Astralos]

People will always criticize or attack others for doing unconventional things. At the end of the day, you should play the way that brings you enjoyment; that's the whole point of a game. The people that want to group (or continue grouping) with you will do so, and the others will not.

[Yumi_umi]

Yea i agree lol, but this just shows how people are too scared to try something different. If everyone does it then that's the only way to do it lol. No free thinking allowed period. XD
No wonder why people are so bored with this game atm cuz all they do is the same stuff the same way everyone else does it so thats why everyone feels so cookie cut
At least i know i'm enjoying this as some other people who met me along DF and PF runs.

[Luis13]

Me being someone who has a friend who likes to try all sort of different things and not follow typical builds, I tip my hat to you, as long as you are having fun with the game, no one has the right to tell you how to play your job, people can always find a different healer if they don't feel comfortable with your gamestyle.