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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    I've had to worry about throwing extra heals at the DRG or MNK way more than any of the range DPS.
    It's almost like nearly every encounter in the game is designed in a way that'll lead to this sort of thing. WEIRD.
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  2. #42
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    Eversongs Neuphora
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    This is also very true.

    When I'm not playing with people I know (with a few exceptions where melee have an advantage, like Titan), you'll almost always see me running as a WAR or WHM (and recently BLM) instead of DRG. I know other DRG who do this too.
    i play my monk and i got a dragon but im finishing BLM to do the same thing lol.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    It's almost like nearly every encounter in the game is designed in a way that'll lead to this sort of thing. WEIRD.
    Is it the games fault a lot of Dragoons and Monks can't dodge tail and side swipes?
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Is it the games fault a lot of Dragoons and Monks can't dodge tail and side swipes?
    Who's blaming here? Like, you made a declarative statement out of the most obvious game mechanic. Do you watch football and wonder aloud why the running backs get hit more than the kickers? Comes with the territory, man.
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  5. #45
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Is it the games fault a lot of Dragoons and Monks can't dodge tail and side swipes?
    So, you're able to dodge all AoEs 100%, use all your CDs perfectly, never have a death that's your fault and make sure the enemies you're tanking are always in the perfect position so that they post the absolute least amount of threat to everyone in your party?

    Yeah...I don't think so
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    Last edited by PArcher; 02-25-2014 at 01:18 AM.

  6. #46
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    They didn't buff melee DPS for S&Gs, folks. They did it because the risk playing the job is higher. That DPS comes with a price.

    If your Monk or Dragoon is a liability, that's one thing. But if you're bellyaching because you had to throw him/her a benediction it's you playing the wrong job, not them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Is it the games fault a lot of Dragoons and Monks can't dodge tail and side swipes?
    To a certain degree I'll have to say yes. Why do you see more DRGs and MNKs being hit by tail and side swipes while magically each and every ranged DD doesn't get hit at all? It's because those tail and side swipes only happen in melee range. If the ranged DDs had to dodge the same thing, they'd be making the same mistakes. It's not like ranged DDs are better players because they play ranged.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    It's not like ranged DDs are better players because they play ranged.
    I love tanking or healing Garuda EX in 4 overgeared-ranged groups who can't pass the first DPS check
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    Who's blaming here? Like, you made a declarative statement out of the most obvious game mechanic. Do you watch football and wonder aloud why the running backs get hit more than the kickers? Comes with the territory, man.
    Melee jobs eating avoidable damage is a game mechanic? Or are you just implying that it's ok when they do because they have more to avoid? Either way, my point still stands. In my experience, melee DPS need more care due to the sheer amount that can't seem to dodge avoidable mechanics.

    That's not to say that there aren't a lot of melee that are great at avoidance, so, stop getting offended if you are one of the good ones.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Melee jobs eating avoidable damage is a game mechanic? Or are you just implying that it's ok when they do because they have more to avoid? Either way, my point still stands. In my experience, melee DPS need more care due to the sheer amount that can't seem to dodge avoidable mechanics.

    That's not to say that there aren't a lot of melee that are great at avoidance, so, stop getting offended if you are one of the good ones.
    One of the good ones... LMAO. Boy, this thread turned into allegory fast.
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