EM Garuda melee.... how?

[Sibyll]

Even so, who actually does this is i65 gear? People at that gear level are doing hard mode.

Yea, how dare anyone run an instance at the gear level it's designed for. Also item level 65 is kind of over gearing most of the HM primals.

[Hitome]

Eh unfortunately some of us are on servers that don't use these strategies. Since people seem to go with the most popular strategy that works for them, all the PF Garuda groups I've done have been: OT takes Chirada and kill her first, OT provokes Suparna off of MT and everyone kills it.

No problem so far. Tornado phase comes and MT takes Suparna + Garuda while OT takes Chirada. Usually the spiny plume goes where it wants and provoke needs to be used when the person it is targeting has 2 stacks. So while the two stacks are building, you kill Chirada. Now here's the problem: you have to provoke the spiny but also want to separate Suparna from Garuda. You can't do that in this instance, leaving Suparna and Garuda with the MT. Now, the melee try to cross the tornado and, assuming they get there safely, end up being hit by whicked wheel because either the tank doesn't sit in his pocket correctly or they don't memorize the pattern.

I would rather you recommend things like: use foresight, featherfoot, keen flurry, fists of earth, etc or stress MOVE AWAY AFTER FRICTION than live in an ideal world where an ideal strategy is used. The ideal situation isn't one you will find on most NA servers no matter how much you wish it was the case (hence: "RANGED ONLY PLZ" PFs).

I honestly think DRGs have it pretty good on this fight. Keen flurry with their improved trait has a really high probability to block one if not both of the wheels while featherfoot isn't as reliable even when paired with foresight and fists of earth. My MNK is i8something (85 or 86?) with about 4.5k HP and still can be one shot.

[Viridiana]

Im sure for fun statics will do this fight in crap gear, but the norm is definitely much higher ilvl than the requirement.

"The norm is to way overgear content, so let's ignore that our normal strategy requires us to overgear the content."

>_>

[Kimura410]

Yea, how dare anyone run an instance at the gear level it's designed for. Also item level 65 is kind of over gearing most of the HM primals.

Nobody I know, unless they just dont have good gear. Anyone with a full 90 set is not going to degrade their armor to the minimum requirement when they are going for a serious kill. When they are just messing around, sure.

Im sure ilvl 65 is "kind of overgearing" hm primals as well, but realistically, this is what people are at when they fight garuda and titan. At launch, most people i played with had spammed AK/WP so they had at least full ivl60 gear on garuda, then titan, people had a mix of DL and lvl60 gear, or just full DL, so thats 65-70. This is what I saw at launch so im guessing its still roughly the same.

Theres a strong opinion that full i90 is overgeared for T5 as well, but does anyone say "you know what, this week, im going to take off this myth gear and put my old DL gear on for a few of these slots, im going to be overgeared if I don't". Hell no. People use the best gear they can to make the fight faster and smoother each time.

[Sibyll]

"The norm is to way overgear content, so let's ignore that our normal strategy requires us to overgear the content."

>_>

Quoted for truth. Tome gear makes it very easy to just out gear everything. I guess it's something we will have to deal with unless they implement a max item level and down level gear similar to how low-level dungeon scaling works.

The funny thing is I've seen posts where people actually believe the minimum item level requirements in Duty Finder are too low for the difficulty of the encounters.