AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[CrstyCaptin]

AoE toggle is great. Saves a ton of macro/action bar space. The only thing I'd suggest changing is making a little 'aoe' graphic on the side to let you know if your aoe is ON or OFF outside of combat/casting spells. At least then you'd be able to plan for the need to turn it on or off before you cast the spell.

[Felis]

In many FF games (like FF IV) you have skills which are single target and aoe target in one. You can choose to target only one enemy or all enemies with the same skill. You don't need 2 skills only to choose between single or aoe.

[Tiraelina]

Sorry, didn't realize we were playing a MMOFPS...

The toggle AoE is one of the few things that I believe to be innovative about this game. As mentioned before, the whole Fire (Single Target) and Fire (AoE) is unnecessary and too cumbersome. With the current game mechanic, skills cost action points in order to place them on the action bar. This is a necessary component of a game where cross class skills exist. If we were to add Spell(AoE), then mage classes would complain because they did not have enough Action point to place their skills. Then when provided enough action points by the devs, they would complain that they did not have enough abilities slot to place Spell, Spell(AoE), and other cross class skills.

You're placing the devs in a catch 22; "messed up" if they don't, "messed up" if they do. Let's not let them worry about silly things like players being too lazy to press 'z'. They have more pressing matters on their hands, like I don't know, the fact that the FATE of Final Fantasy XIV rest in their hands. I'm just saying....

All it's promoting is more bad gameplay that requires little strategy when spamming your AoE is identical to spamming your single target. You don't need to put every single element on your bars, complaining about AP cost is meaningless. I can't wait to see how mindless the raids and dungeons will be if they don't change how it works.

[Monkey]

All it's promoting is more bad gameplay that requires little strategy when spamming your AoE is identical to spamming your single target. You don't need to put every single element on your bars, complaining about AP cost is meaningless. I can't wait to see how mindless the raids and dungeons will be if they don't change how it works.

You say potato, I say potato.... I guess it makes more sense when said out loud.

Any who, your post makes no sense. How does deciding whether to choose Fire(AoE) vs deciding whether to activate/deactivate AoE makes or breaks a game strategically?

The answer, it doesn't. A smart mage class player will look at each situation before deciding whether to choose to toggle AoE on/off or whether to choose Spell vs Spell(AoE). Either way a smart mage will be doing the exact same concept. Dumb mage classes will spam AoE no matter what. So lets take this whole talk of strategy out of the window.

As far as not equipping certain elements, this is the scenario I see arising

Mage 2: "Give me a few minutes"
Party Member 1: "Why"
Mage 1: "Next Group of mobs are weak against fire. last group was water so have to switch out my skills since my AoE skills is taking up my action point that my fire skills could've have been at"
Party Member 2: "ummm, ok, but didnt you just unequip your fire to put in your lightening"
Mage 1: "Exactly"

[Molly_Millions]

OP you've got to be kidding! You are kidding right?! This is the most rediculous request I've read yet. Just learn when you can or cannot aoe. Removing the option for aoe is a stupid idea.

[Godking]

I have one macro: /aoe

I click it, it goes on, I kill stuff, I click it again and it goes off.

It's not hard, and no, macro's don't bug out. I use macros for gear switching and spell switching. They work fine.

[Elexia]

I have one macro: /aoe

I click it, it goes on, I kill stuff, I click it again and it goes off.

It's not hard, and no, macro's don't bug out. I use macros for gear switching and spell switching. They work fine.

Since it's FFXIV everything people don't use is assumed to be buggy, aside the +1 etc issue, I've yet to have problems with macros myself.

[Ava]

The AOE toggle in theory was a good idea, but I also hate it and want it removed. /Agree with OP.

[TheVedis]

Since it's FFXIV everything people don't use is assumed to be buggy, aside the +1 etc issue, I've yet to have problems with macros myself.

+1 stuff is buggy? i can macro it in just fine

[Razzle]

The problem is the claim system. A party should get SP for the mobs they kill...

At the moment a party is PUNISHED for luring more than one mob. That's pure silliness...

SE could fix this by doing one of these:

1. Make large parties be able to claim more than one mob.

or

2. If AOE spell is targeted a red named mob, it'd ONLY hit other red named mobs and ignore others.

SE's mistake is LETTING the players be able to HIT a mob that is not red.
If SE want to keep players from claiming more than one mob, fine, but fix your AOE to not hit the other mobs.

Summery: If SE doesn't want to change the claim system, then they should MAKE it impossible to ATTACK unclaimed mobs (If one is already claimed).
There is NO point to attack an unclaimed mob as you gain NOTHING out of it. Therefore, 100% of the time an unclaimed mob is attacked is an ACCIDENT that is the main reason of player fights and kicking out of party or simply just bad gaming experience overall.

kthxbai XO