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    The only thing I don't like about the "Advance Jobs" is the line up. Say RDM uses BLM and WHM as the two core classes. It HAS to select one as the base so either BLM or WHM sets the standards, so Armor set and Weapon are set to that base class as well as all cross class abilities would be restricted just to what the 2 core bases revolve around. Since Job changes with each stone equipped and not part of the cross class, you don't get any of the 5 bonus skills the original jobs had without rehauling the system to support the new Advance jobs.

    If Advance Jobs were a key point, and please note, you don't even have to play the jobs needed, just unlock them and level the base Class to the appropriate level unless you quest lock the job quest and skill quests for it. Also leveling up, if left to the same standards would only level the base Class which then would raise the level of the first Job, which would raise the level of the Advance class.

    Even if they were to add 2-3 Advance jobs at a time to help with balancing the roles properly, you could level all the current classes to 70 and essentially have all future Advance jobs at 70 upon release anyway.
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    Eh, Armor and Weapons don't necessarily have to be conditioned by the base class. Just look at SMN and SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Eh, Armor and Weapons don't necessarily have to be conditioned by the base class. Just look at SMN and SCH.
    Base armor is still the same with a special lock, but I can still use Arcanist armor on a Summoner or Scholar and only the end gear is tailored to the specific classes. Allagan and Darklight can be used by the base classes. Evoker and Summoner/Scholar and Argute are the only class specific ones for the Arcanist based classes. As a healer role (while under Scholar), Arcanist are granted access to the same armor Conjurers wear otherwise they have access to the same base armor as Thaumaturge. There are only 2 Class specific armors per Job at the moment. If I had a RDM, I can use THM armor on it or BLM armor if THM is the base class. Even if RDM got 1 armor, it still uses the same armor as the class its based from. If DPS, it'll use THM's armor or leather based armor similar to Pugilist. This is all based on the Armory system we currently have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Eh, Armor and Weapons don't necessarily have to be conditioned by the base class. Just look at SMN and SCH.
    Both use books as weapons
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    Bump for some much needed Musketeer love. Add the class and I will hang up my lance for a gun and never change again SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakiraka View Post
    Bump for some much needed Musketeer love. Add the class and I will hang up my lance for a gun and never change again SE.
    Until the Gun Lance comes out and then you'll be the happiest camper on Eorzea right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    Until the Gun Lance comes out and then you'll be the happiest camper on Eorzea right?
    That would probably make me a level of happy I can't even divulge into on an forum like this. If Lancers could use a Gun Lance and maybe with having it fire from some Musketeer cross-class abilities they can use? Oh lawdy. *fans face with hand*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakiraka View Post
    That would probably make me a level of happy I can't even divulge into on an forum like this. If Lancers could use a Gun Lance and maybe with having it fire from some Musketeer cross-class abilities they can use? Oh lawdy. *fans face with hand*
    I'd love to see the Gun Lances from Monster Hunter appear on Eorzea if er ever get the Garlean expansion. I don't want special classes too much, Gun Lance for Dragoons and what ever advance job they may have, Gun Blades for Gladiator and Paladins. Automatic/Semi-automatic bow or even crossbows for the Archer/Bard. Shotgun canes and staves for Conjurer and Thaumaturges. Arcanist I can't see it working for XD Sadness for me. On and maybe something like what the White Armored General (I WILL NEVER LEARN THESE NAMES TTwTT) had or some kinda gun mounted brass knuckle like from Beet the Vandal Buster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    I'd love to see the Gun Lances from Monster Hunter appear on Eorzea if er ever get the Garlean expansion. I don't want special classes too much, Gun Lance for Dragoons and what ever advance job they may have, Gun Blades for Gladiator and Paladins. Automatic/Semi-automatic bow or even crossbows for the Archer/Bard. Shotgun canes and staves for Conjurer and Thaumaturges. Arcanist I can't see it working for XD Sadness for me. On and maybe something like what the White Armored General (I WILL NEVER LEARN THESE NAMES TTwTT) had or some kinda gun mounted brass knuckle like from Beet the Vandal Buster.
    Well there is a Gunblade class planned once we get near or in the Garlean Empire. Gunblade class production is being held back because Yoshi-P already has this plan to make Gunblade class a new class that goes with the Garlean Empire or near to accessing the Garlean Empire despite the countless Gunblade class NPCs we see in the Main Storyline as part of the Garlean Military forces.

    However, I don't expect the access or near access to garlean Empire until 2nd expansion or near 2nd expansion as part of a Major Update due to the 2 year per expansion plan they already setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    Base armor is still the same with a special lock, but I can still use Arcanist armor on a Summoner or Scholar and only the end gear is tailored to the specific classes. Allagan and Darklight can be used by the base classes. Evoker and Summoner/Scholar and Argute are the only class specific ones for the Arcanist based classes. As a healer role (while under Scholar), Arcanist are granted access to the same armor Conjurers wear otherwise they have access to the same base armor as Thaumaturge. There are only 2 Class specific armors per Job at the moment. If I had a RDM, I can use THM armor on it or BLM armor if THM is the base class. Even if RDM got 1 armor, it still uses the same armor as the class its based from. If DPS, it'll use THM's armor or leather based armor similar to Pugilist. This is all based on the Armory system we currently have.
    Arcanist actually can't equip the Darklight that SCH uses. That was my point.

    Look at Lancer and Dragoon. Even though they both can use some of the tank armor at lower levels, at endgame none of the Dragoon equipment is like that. If they add a second Job to Lancer that is a tank, I expect the same situation that happens with Arcanist, with Lancer not being able to equip the endgame armor of this potential new job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Both use books as weapons
    But they can't all equip the same books, that was my point. They can still get weapons tailored to each class.
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