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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    LoSing would be super risky and would just cause too much chaos (eheheheh).
    Yeah.
    The Dragon isn't rooted once the icon appears, so you can't really run behind him without stunning him first.
    And stun is probably on DR for the reasons already mentioned. Doh.

    I can dodge behind Evil Eye (the cone) if nobody else stuns it - but that's never guaranteed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Usually popping a CD will do
    You see, that's my issue. I don't think Chaos Breath IS affected by cooldowns... or at least it doesn't appear to be affected by them at the point when it actually deals damage to me.
    (perhaps the damage is calculated when the icon first appears and it being inflicted is just delayed...? In which case popping cooldowns earlier might work...)

    Whatever the reasoning, that 4k damage goes straight through Stoneskin and Hallowed Ground like they aren't even there.

    I've also tried popping both Rampart and Sentinel for a combined 60% damage resistance, but the damage doesn't appear to be noticeably reduced.
    At the moment it's the one attack in the game which seems be ignoring Damage Resistances... which makes a WAR tank a better choice. Weird.

    Facetanking it usually doesn't cause too many issues for the raid itself, but occasionally (like in the video) it results in a MT death.

    Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and make yet another annoying "HEY HEALERS HEY HEY HEY <se.1> <se.2> <se.3>" macro...
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
    You see, that's my issue. I don't think Chaos Breath IS affected by cooldowns... or at least it doesn't appear to be affected by them at the point when it actually deals damage to me.
    (perhaps the damage is calculated when the icon first appears and it being inflicted is just delayed...? In which case popping cooldowns earlier might work...)
    I'm not too sure about this myself since I don't end up in Alliance B often, but I hardly see B's MT die to Bone Dragon thou. I just happened to be in B as MT last night, I don't recall I'm always or even most of the time near anything like 80% of my HP pool (6.3K). Hovering around 4-5k range but I survive with aboiut 1.2-1.5k.

    I didn't stack my CDs like you did, I used them one by one thou (ie up Rampart, after it ends then up Foresight etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    I'm not too sure about this myself since I don't end up in Alliance B often, but I hardly see B's MT die to Bone Dragon thou. I just happened to be in B as MT last night, I don't recall I'm always or even most of the time near anything like 80% of my HP pool (6.3K). Hovering around 4-5k range but I survive with aboiut 1.2-1.5k.

    I didn't stack my CDs like you did, I used them one by one thou (ie up Rampart, after it ends then up Foresight etc).
    After examining the video I linked earlier, it appears to inflict exactly 3843 Damage both times on that PLD.
    The PLD has 5491 HP, so 3843 is almost exactly 70% of this... so perhaps it IS a set amount (70% of the tank's maximum HP bar?)

    My usual HP is currently 6955 (with cheap food) and 70% of that would be 4868 Damage... a number which looks oddly familiar now that I see it. (I must actually check my battle logs next time...)

    If it's a flat 70%, that could explain why it hits some people harder than others and also why my stupid cooldowns don't seem to want to work.
    Though I need to test that cooldown thing better next time I'm in CT now - using them pre-emptively might be one way around it.

    I do rotate my cooldowns usually for harder fights, but I don't think of CT as being particularly hard so I don't tend to use any cooldowns unless I know there's a big spike of damage about to come in. The result is that I'd usually never have any cooldowns up for actually getting the icon; but would pop them right before Chaos Breath's damage kicks in. I'll try popping them prior to getting the icon next time since the ability appears to be on a 30sec timer.

    I wonder if it might work like Hydra's Triumvirate and split a large amount of damage amongst anyone caught in it?
    Maybe it ignores maximum HP buffs like WAR's Defiance or Thrill of Battle? Need more testing...
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    Last edited by Maelwys; 02-19-2014 at 02:42 AM.