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  1. #11
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    So much drama will be generated out of that so it won't happen.
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  2. #12
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    Thagyr's Avatar
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    Viktor Luminasch
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Drama if you do, drama if you don't. Compare it to taking a long drive somewhere with some people with impossibly high standards of travel.

    Are we there yet? No.
    Are we there yet? No.
    Are we there yet? No.
    Are we there yet? No.
    etc.

    In FFXIV terms it's.

    Can I leave yet? No.
    Can I leave yet? No.
    Can I leave yet? No.
    Can I leave yet? No.
    Can I leave yet? No.
    Can I leave yet? No.

    In the event that its a yes, then no drama as the sentiment was shared. However if nothing changes, and people still want to have a crack at the content despite one individuals desires, then its just annoying as they keep wanting something that they won't get. Yet, they will keep doing it. I've had an entire CT run (which was completed mind you) with someone spamming it for an unknown reason. We assumed because the run was a bit more chaotic than usual, and there was a hick with skeleton spread on the Bone dragon which caused 1 solitary wipe in the entire dungeon.
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    Last edited by Thagyr; 02-18-2014 at 07:44 PM.

  3. #13
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    There should be a 5 min CD on this at the very least. If someone really want to leave, let them suffer the perfectly acceptable penalty.
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  4. #14
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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Purrfect Storm
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    There should be a 5 min CD on this at the very least. If someone really want to leave, let them suffer the perfectly acceptable penalty.
    What if they vote to abandon, the vote fails, so they go AFK to get vote-kicked (or worse, verbally abuse others to get vote-kicked)? Look, no penalty! Penalty timers are a bad idea. I understand why they're there but I think they do more harm than good. People wouldn't NEED to spam vote abandon (or resort to the above method) if the penalty timer was removed. People want to have fun playing this game. Duty isn't fun (for whatever reason). Player leaves duty. Player can't have fun for 30 min. Penalty timers are fun-destroying.

    I'm curious though. What if a player initiates vote abandon, the vote fails, and the player speaks up and just ASKS to be vote-kicked, something like "Look, I don't want to get a penalty for leaving duty but I'm not having fun here. I understand that you all want to complete this instance. I could just go AFK or be a jerk until you vote-kick me but can't we just skip all that and you all vote-kick me?"

    Does that count as vote-kick abuse? What reason would the other players put? Is anyone breaking any rules here? What happens if the player says nothing and goes AFK (to get vote-kicked)? Would it be any different if they said the above to get vote-kicked?

    I'm just curious because the whole system seems wonky to me and all easily avoided by removing the penalty timers.
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  5. #15
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Tegan Laron
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Cain View Post
    Yep, no cooldown. They can spam it endlessly, and there's no way to know who to report for the harassment.
    Nope, wrong. There is a cool-down of 2-3 minutes. If it's being spammed constantly then it means more than one person is doing it.
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  6. #16
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Vote Abandon still works on majority vote. There's nothing to abuse.
    Except that people are lazy sheep and don't bother reading, so they just click the "Yes" button just to get the big huge thing that just popped up on their screen out of their way.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  7. #17
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    Umo's Avatar
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    Umo Heima
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Cain View Post
    there's no way to know who to report for the harassment.
    There's no need to, just report the entire party / alliance including reason (harassment by spaming "Vote Abandon"), duty and times (LT, ST, ET). Devs should be able to check out the violator and take actions against her/him if necessary.
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    Last edited by Umo; 02-20-2014 at 06:39 AM.
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