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Thread: PvP is not fun.

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    I just get a kick out of Amused not being amused!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    any suggestion how 2 make that "retard" for the good one?
    Forcing 1 melee makes things boring because ranged had such nice synergy. Fighting vs. 1 ranged 1 melee every time makes fights feel cookie cutter.
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    Nice synergy? You mean an "I win comp"?
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    Bard/Caster isn't I win, and what if a Caster/Caster is fighting Caster/Caster? How can they both win? It's incredibly satisfying beating Ranged/Ranged especially if you play with a melee.

    You all assume people want easy wins with broken comps, but people who legitimately enjoy PvP want to beat the best with the best, not compete at the special olympics.

    Melee don't mesh well with casters. Bards have skills designed to help casters, melee do not. This lack of cohesion is boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deca View Post
    Forcing 1 melee makes things boring because ranged had such nice synergy. Fighting vs. 1 ranged 1 melee every time makes fights feel cookie cutter.
    Isnt it same than 2.1 when you forced 2 play with tank? You have only get used to it. seems like nobody whine about that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Isnt it same than 2.1 when you forced 2 play with tank? You have only get used to it. seems like nobody whine about that anymore.
    Except that the EX Primals can all be done with a single tank...
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    I agree with every point you made and those changes need to happen. PvP is an afterthought in this game and is poorly designed in almost every way. Take a page from every other PvP MMO on the market and you'll see the right way to do things Square. Im a huge fan of all things Final Fantasy and the PvE in this game is far and away the best on the market, but I also live for PvP and force myself to PvP in this game even though its terrible because I enjoy this game an would rather not play 2 separate MMOs for PvP and PvE. The latency and cooldown issues will probably never be solved since this game is built on a bad foundation but at least makes PvP competitive. As it stands, good healers are gods that just abuse Sprint, lag, and LoS. Casters that dont have access to a ton of instants are extremely easy to lock down with 100% interrupt on attacks. And CC in general is just broken, its not balanced between classes, CC is minimal except for WHM and BLM which have a 30 second sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenHero View Post
    As it stands, good healers are gods that just abuse Sprint, lag, and LoS. Casters that dont have access to a ton of instants are extremely easy to lock down with 100% interrupt on attacks. And CC in general is just broken, its not balanced between classes, CC is minimal except for WHM and BLM which have a 30 second sleep.
    ????

    what? if you think this, then learn to play. almost everything you said is wrong especially on CC s sleep isnt the only CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrobearthe2nd View Post
    ????

    what? if you think this, then learn to play. almost everything you said is wrong especially on CC s sleep isnt the only CC.
    Read again I said its minimal, and sleep is broken. The longest CC in any other game is 4-8 seconds. You shouldnt be able to be kept out of the entire fight.
    Melee in general struggle against Sprinting healers without much to stop them in their tracks.
    The meta in this game is just chase the sprinting LoS'ing healer around walls for 5 mins, how is that fun?

    I win most of my matches, it isnt a L2P issue. PvP in this game is flawed in many ways.
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    i just wish ppl did level 50 4's
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