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  1. #141
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    I dont see the big deal, let homosexual couples marry in game. Its a god damn game, if people dont want to play it for that reason, forget them.

    If anything, websites like IGN, gamespot, PC gamer, and other magazines and websites will prob commend Square enix, and give them more publicity if anything helping their sales I bet.
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  2. #142
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    I love how haters of equality want to make this a "volatile debate" that is better not taken into account and to leave marriage system out of the game.

    Point is, this game is a chance for many to stablish good and perpetual relationships, and though only symbolical, the word marriage still has a weight for those people. Even if they are a vast, vast minimal of individuals, granted that such a system is so easy to implement, id say same sex marriage is something this game needs.

    If you dont want to, dont participate of it, but just because you dont like or want to be part of something, that means everyone else has to see how that option is rejected.

    Even if 1 couple out of 10.000 players is an homosexual couple IRL that can archive marriage symbolicaly through this game, its already more than enough to make said option not only valid, but a must.
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  3. #143
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    There are more important things to fix than getting married on this game. Equality in itself has turned into favoritism these days, do not sugar coat it, if you want special arrangements outside of the status quo in a world that should hold no strings to real life problems, you should be aware that there are others who require the same thing just because they have the same power as you do.
    I also find it quite amusing that everyone seems to be so enthusiastic about marriage in a virtual world, when in reality divorcing happens as often as marriage.
    Like people say,they are all in for marriage not because they mean it but because they want the buffs. You all are in for marriage because of the buffs, how pathetic.
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  4. #144
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    Buffs? If marriage will give characters stat buffs then I don't ever want to see it in this game.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenjd3 View Post
    I dont see the big deal, let homosexual couples marry in game. Its a god damn game, if people dont want to play it for that reason, forget them.
    I can say the same thing though, let heterosexual couple marry in game only, its a god damn game, if people don't want to play it for that reason forget them.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenjd3 View Post
    I dont see the big deal, let homosexual couples marry in game. Its a god damn game, if people dont want to play it for that reason, forget them.

    If anything, websites like IGN, gamespot, PC gamer, and other magazines and websites will prob commend Square enix, and give them more publicity if anything helping their sales I bet.
    This this this this this x 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    To hell with who ever considers homo marriage in this game a bad thing, the dev's included. Fuck the people who are too uptight to progress socially and fuck any game company that wants to pick old fashion religious values over social forwardness.

    The world will move on and those people can live in their dark tiny world of confining social customs.

    If SE is afraid of breaking a few eggs and alienates their gay players, ESO is it!. If SE wants to give homos a big middle finger, I will give it right back to them. There are plenty of forward thinking game companies that can have my money.


    It's hard for some people to understand why this is important. It sucks when you face conservative anti-homosexual bull shit all the time in every facet of your life. Stuff like marriage equality is really close to home for a lot of LBGT. When you log into a game and you are reminded that:

    "hey, even though I have a partner of eight years I cannot even get fucking pretend married in a game because of idiot bigot ass holes,"

    it only serves as a reminder as to why am I even paying a game company that is not inclusive to my life style.
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    Last edited by Licus; 02-16-2014 at 07:59 AM.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Ya'll keep saying things like this, and yet I have seen not a single instance of any kind of "storm" brewing for any MMO with regards to things like this, except when the "storm" is in response to exclusion (i.e. SE considering not allowing same-sex marriage in their system).
    Which makes said storm out of turn on several levels. Hydaelin is a fictional setting. XIV's cultures are not those of earth. The values or lack thereof in the fictional setting are not reflective of the real world, and as such we should not be bringing stuff from our world into XIV's.

    PS: SE already said their piece on this during beta, where they pretty much said they would not include it since it is seen as a controversial topic. A pointless shitstorm ensued and several of the marriage threads were deleted since they all devolved into crap thanks to that argument. As I've said before, I push for non-involvement because it gives people what they want without forcing SE's hand for anything other than production of items and assets.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiorana View Post
    I can say the same thing though, let heterosexual couple marry in game only, its a god damn game, if people don't want to play it for that reason forget them.
    You really can't say the same thing without look like a fool.

    One statement supports sexual equality and promotes a more fair environment to segment of the games population. The only adversely effected people are bigots and socially backwards people who want to explicitly control the actions of another group solely for comfort reasons.

    The other statement discriminates and alienates a group of people who want nothing more than to be their selves.

    One side of the homosexuality debate is ass backwards and wrong. It's like siding with any historical injustice and saying "hey, those people who suppressed women rights had a valid opinion." Opinions that subjugate, discriminate, exclude, and/or suppress any human beings are flat out 100% wrong!
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    Last edited by Licus; 02-16-2014 at 08:03 AM.

  9. #149
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    Aria Tsuki
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    Pfff do i wan't them to add Marriage yes why not? let everyone get married girls and girls guys and guys. Why it has nothing to do with being gay {so plz stop acting like it dose} this is a game if i'm a girl and want to marry a girl that's my buddy then let me this is only for fun nothing more {but i do hope we get a mount or a cool looking pet for geting married} this is a game ppl play it for fun. This is not sword art online nothing in this game will happ to you in real life so when thinking about Marriage think of it as a fun gimmick nothing about it is real can't we enjoy our fake world with out all this drama BS?
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    Last edited by Mogi; 02-16-2014 at 08:02 AM.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    PS: SE already said their piece on this during beta, where they pretty much said they would not include it since it is seen as a controversial topic.
    Actually, what they said was that they would continue to take community feedback into account regarding the topic and that they hadn't come to a decision yet.
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