So will Glamours Require Crafting?

[Zarzak]

They probably use crafts to make a consumable that is used in the vanity system.

This is what I was assuming. You would be able to use any item you want (like drops from dungeons that can't be traded) but that to actually use the item as vanity you would need some crafted item like dye is now. You don't need crafting personally to dye your armor but a crafter is the one who makes the dye. (ignoring the exceptions such as beast men rep dye)

[Bixby]

Again, putting on clothes has never required the assistance of anyone unless you're a toddler. It's an entirely different situation

Yeah, but altering a winter coat so that it looks exactly like you're wearing a bikini top while still keeping you just as warm takes a teensy bit more skill.

[Naunet]

Yeah, but altering a winter coat so that it looks exactly like you're wearing a bikini top while still keeping you just as warm takes a teensy bit more skill.

I think we can handwave that for the sake of game mechanics. >_>

[Licus]

Personally, as soon as another player tries to charge me multiple hours worth of my work for very little of their work. That is griefing. Why is their time worth more than mine.

The system should be a 2nd set of armor on the character sheet. So you can drag and drop what you want, whenever you want, and be done with it. If a "stat piece" changes nothing in the "vanity piece" should change and the look doesn't need updates. Also the "look items" should stay as they are and be useable as normal gear if needed. No consuming/destroying of anything. I rather not have to reacquire anything for this system. Some things can't be found anymore or they take a lot of luck to get.

Think of it as the crafter charging you for the time and gil they spent to max out that craft. There, now the time is equitable on both side.

[TheUltimate3]

http://gamerescape.com/2014/02/12/ps...naoki-yoshida/

Not sure if this was read yet. But the bottom is important.

Crafters factor into this as they are the only ones who can make these crystals, and they will bring the Glamour Prisms to market. Players will go to the marketplace, buy the crystal they need and mirror the appearance of their desired gear onto their character.

Yay crafters.

[Naunet]

Crafters factor into this as they are the only ones who can make these crystals, and they will bring the Glamour Prisms to market. Players will go to the marketplace, buy the crystal they need and mirror the appearance of their desired gear onto their character.

Well, this has the potential to be okay or absolutely horrible, depending on the crafting level and material requirements. Hopefully Squee isn't completely batshit and makes completing the recipe extremely accessible.

[PArcher]

Well, this has the potential to be okay or absolutely horrible, depending on the crafting level and material requirements. Hopefully Squee isn't completely batshit and makes completing the recipe extremely accessible.

There needs to be a balance between accessibility and difficulty; too easy and all the crafters complain about still being useless...too hard and people complain about there not being enough...

I think the best way would be to have different "grades" of glamour corresponding to materia grades. So Tier 1 would would be easiest and cheapest (prob a lv15 or so), Grade 2 is next (lv30), Grade 3 would be lv45, and Grade 4 is lv50+ (maybe 1*)

[Naunet]

I think the best way would be to have different "grades" of glamour corresponding to materia grades. So Tier 1 would would be easiest and cheapest (prob a lv15 or so), Grade 2 is next (lv30), Grade 3 would be lv45, and Grade 4 is lv50+ (maybe 1*)

And what would these different grades do?

Ugh. The whole thing is just way over-complicated. Don't understand why they couldn't just create a second paperdoll for a wardrobe tab and call it done. >_<

[Bixby]

Well, this has the potential to be okay or absolutely horrible, depending on the crafting level and material requirements. Hopefully Squee isn't completely batshit and makes completing the recipe extremely accessible.

There needs to be a balance between accessibility and difficulty; too easy and all the crafters complain about still being useless...too hard and people complain about there not being enough...

I think the best way would be to have different "grades" of glamour corresponding to materia grades. So Tier 1 would would be easiest and cheapest (prob a lv15 or so), Grade 2 is next (lv30), Grade 3 would be lv45, and Grade 4 is lv50+ (maybe 1*)

Here, let's just quote the whole thing about vanity, since he actually addressed this stuff:

Yoshida: In terms of fees for players, players should not be paying a high fee to use the Glamour System. As to how it works, there is a new item called the Glamour Prism which is a crystal that can be used to change your appearance by mirroring the look of your item. These crystals will come in different types to accommodate different gear level ranges, so if you want to assume the appearance of an item that is iLvl 30, you would need the Glamour Prism that corresponded to items of iLvl 30 to iLvl 40. While that is not the exact range, there will be several ranges of iLVLs that each Glamour Prism will work on, similar to how Grade 1 Carbonized Matter, and Grade 2 Carbonized Matter work.

Crafters factor into this as they are the only ones who can make these crystals, and they will bring the Glamour Prisms to market. Players will go to the marketplace, buy the crystal they need and mirror the appearance of their desired gear onto their character. So if you’re a crafter, you can make your own Glamour Prisms. The recipes for the crystals aren’t designed to be expensive, so I imagine it won’t be a limiting factor. Once you copy the appearance of gear that you like onto the crystal, that crystal is now bound and cannot be traded or sold, so the only commodity in the Glamour system are the Glamour Prisms that are blank made by crafters. So as a crafter, you will want to bring to market the Glamour Prisms that correspond to the coolest looking gear.

It should be easy to access for everyone and shouldn’t cost too much, so please look forward to the new feature.

[Naunet]

*twitch*

Freakin'... Gawd, Squee, please stop trying to reinvent the wheel.