Hard time choosing my DPSer.

[T0rin]

Then what makes the rest of the population that haven't even got to the point at which I(since you're using me as a convenient excuse) have cleared...

bad-er?

Well, technically... 'worse'. But yeah, you got the gist. Average player is pretty awful. Even a large portion of people clearing high end content are barely passable.

But, I was not commenting on your achievements, but rather your conclusions about game realities.

BRD is the worst DPS class, hands down, in terms of damage output.

Everything you wrote about states that you think quite to the contrary.

Everything you write about the best DPS class (SMN) is completely off base, showing you have absolutely no knowledge of the actual class. What is clear though, is that you have never seen a good SMN in your life. Which is a pity.

But, just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And on the point of SMN being more effort "to beat the advance of a mediocre brd or blm or mnk", it is called a skill cap. Higher skill caps generally result in better performance. In this case, a good SMN will out perform the aforementioned classes with ease on ~90% of all content.

But, you haven't figured that out yet. Which is what makes you bad. Or at least... ignorant of the realities of the game world.

What does a SMN give me in T4, that a bard doesn't give me, only better and smoother?

DPS.

[EasymodeX]

And why would you expand the scope of this thread to the expanse of the internet? The OP asked a question and you go on talk about parser and internet and idiotic brother, I don't even...

You expanded the scope of the discussion to 'anyone'.

Deal with it.

OP said he is new, what now?

New to FF14. Are you mentally damaged? You seem to have a hard time reading and comprehending posts.

I don't even... wha..?

Looks like you don't even understand your own posts to boot .

[kukurumei]

But, just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And on the point of SMN being more effort "to beat the advance of a mediocre brd or blm or mnk", it is called a skill cap. Higher skill caps generally result in better performance. In this case, a good SMN will out perform the aforementioned classes with ease on ~90% of all content.

But, you haven't figured that out yet. Which is what makes you bad. Or at least... ignorant of the realities of the game world.

Those are contradictory....

It's so rare to see because it's so good, because it's rare....but doesn't make it...not good?

I will say you are totally wrong about this so called "skill cap", but whatever I'll give it to you

In the end, wouldn't I still get a bard? because it's tows the line more often?

[Aphrini]

A bigger horn....that's what it gives you, size matters.

[Aphrini]

Kuku you are part of the problem, Torin you waste your time on her, you and I know the truth and our DPS outshines them all, lol again we have nothing to prove to you. A fool by any other name is still an idiot.

[Seobit]

What does a SMN give me in T4, that a bard doesn't give me, only better and smoother?

400 dps.

Get new healers. Ballad is crutch. Bards are only good to give us casters foes and please our egos.

[Asdamine]

You expanded the scope of the discussion to 'anyone'.

Funny how people thinks that those words "everyone" and "anyone" mean every single living being on this planet... that's just beyond me...

New to FF14. Are you mentally damaged? You seem to have a hard time reading and comprehending posts.

Really? Do share your thoughts, I am sure you can change the OP's statement that he is new to this game - to - being experienced in Final Fantasy. Go ahead, give it a shot.

Looks like you don't even understand your own posts to boot .

You failed to understand that it was a rhetorical question. /slowclap

[T0rin]

Those are contradictory....

It's so rare to see because it's so good, because it's rare....but doesn't make it...not good?

No, it's so rare to see because it's not easy, because it isn't a complete faceroll like a BRD, which makes it rare. If it were good and easy, then everyone would do it. As is, it's just good. (not that any class is hard, but again.. average player.. bad)

I will say you are totally wrong about this so called "skill cap", but whatever I'll give it to you

In the end, wouldn't I still get a bard? because it's tows the line more often?

Do you not understand what a skill cap is? Doesn't seem like it.

But no, if you had the capacity to player a SMN well, the only reason you would 'get a bard' is if your group specifically needed one. Not because you wanted to deal good damage.

[EasymodeX]

Funny how people thinks that those words "everyone" and "anyone" mean every single living being on this planet... that's just beyond me...

It seems that there are many things that are beyond you, including the discussion context extending beyond the TC.

Really? Do share your thoughts, I am sure you can change the OP's statement that he is new to this game - to - being experienced in Final Fantasy. Go ahead, give it a shot.

It's not my obligation to disprove that unicorns exist. It is incumbent on you to prove that they do.

You failed to understand that it was a rhetorical question. /slowclap

You failed to understand what I was responding to. /slowerclap

[Kuroyasha]

This thread is just full of e-peen

OP, to answer your question, I'd rather have all 4 of those as my dps that you listed; MNK BRD BLM SMN. If you go BLM and you use Apoc in extremes fights where applicable and can move only when necessary, i want you. If you're a BRD who can do great dps while you aren't singing (honestly can do some boss dps while not singing) and use battle voice when ballading so you dont have to sing for as long, i want you.

If you're a mnk who can weave in atks and learn when to apply ToD for sustained dmg through transitions, all while being aware of when mechanics are occuring so you can dodge and still be in GL3 (when applicable, i know sometimes it's just impossible or near impossible) i want you. Not to mention using mantra at opportune moments.

Smn...smn is tricky. I took the time to research best rotations and practice in-game in extremes and what not to maximize my output, thus seeing first-hand just how much practical dmg they can do. I'll always take a good smn. Key word....good. If i see u always waiting till bio 2 runs out b4 re-applying ALL your dots....i dont want you.

Yea drg is nice too. Nothing against it as it provides benefits as well, and when you get that rotation down it feels so good doing that burst. It's just that Id rather have mnk and blm, since I wouldn't replace bard and smn (a good smn).