Yoshi P addresses lag. Its time to deliever...

[Doki]

Even on SUCCESSFUL Titan EX runs, every time Titan does his sumo stomp, on my client everyone is knocked back over the edge and then runs across mid air. Obviously on their client it displays with them not in mid air over the edge. Even when the game isn't lagging enough to make moves undodgable it just looks silly/embarrassing a lot of the time.

Just had a friend rage quit and cancel his account last night because of the lag problem with dodging AoEs. I've known him for years, and played enough action games with him to know it isn't a hand/eye coordination OR ISP problem.

I don't understand why more AOE attacks are not like when Titan lands from a jump... make it high dmg if you are in the center, and lower from the edge. If they can't get latency right, at least make it a tiny bit more unforgiving.

[Jaykos]

The strange thing is, after a short period of time you learn to compensate.
Same as we did with the abilities from the primals.
Same as we did for dodging AoEs during battles..

So you're admitting that people can't avoid aoes properly due to lag?

You learn the timing and you compensate for that. The extra time on Holmgang and Hallowed Ground are completely intentional

Developer quote or stop speaking for them.

[Autymnfyres]

...you for my gaming entertainment.

#1 Most important thing : LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE RUBBISH INTERNET CONNECTIONS. This is a fact.
Almost always, its the fault between the persons computer and the nodes and hops between them and the server they're playing on....


Have you tried diagnosing the issue step-by-step?

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I have almost zero lag issues, and have literally only crashed out three times since early launch began. And actually two of those crashes were on the first day of server overload issues.

But I'll take your post of suggestions and make sure to 'splain this to my three friends whom tried to get into this game but did most certainly have these problems, repeatedly.

I'll say - don't worry, its frigged up but you can do several steps requiring your time and/or ability to figure out tech, and additionally you can also pay a small, but extra fee to an external company in order to have the pleasure of
having what should be minimally acceptable gameplay (*you know the kind you get in every other mmo you currently or have recently played) in FFXIV ARR.


Comeon - such a deal. You are just a jerk if you don't want to use your noggin and figure this all out...what? You just want to buy a game, sub to it and enjoy an on-par experience like your friends? Uhm...not gonna happen unless you do all these other things. Don't want to? Ok, ba-bye, you are of zero interest to this franchise anyhow, go somewhere else.

Yea. Thats the unfortunate attitude I see over and over from many/not all, but many who don't have the lag or issues themselves. Very good p-r for FFXIV ARR. We don't need new players, we are just fine without ya.

How about specifically addressing the problems even if they are complicated, even if no answer currently exists S-E? Not another, 'well we will take a look at these issues sometime SOON' --- specifically respond on a regular basis and show at least something to your customers that you are going to proactively, positively do about this problem.

[Yukiko]

Yoshida: We would need to extend the time players have to dodge. But doing that will make the content super easy, so it’s impossible.

Well... action games, just glad we are playing a Final Fantasy... oh, wait... shit!

[Huginn]

Yoshi P doesn't (want to) understand the real issue here. If the game can check player position against AOE on client side (like most MMORPG if not all), people will be fine even with 200-300 ping. But that will be a massive job to do.

I dont mean to be insulting, but you misspelled exploit.

It comes down to this: If someone else is not having a lag issue and you are having a lag issue... it's your problem. Im not trying to be a jerk, but in reality, there is nothing that SE can do to make your internet have lower latency.

There are things that you can do, however. DISABLE NAGLE's ALGORYTHM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also, check your latency to the server. an easy way to do this is with a simple "netstat -a -n" and then launch the game, do another netstat and look for the new address, ping it. if your latency is low, but you cant dodge effects, there is a good chance that Nagle's algoryth is sabotaging you.

[Massterchef]

Haven't struggled with lag ever since I got off wifi and onto a stable connection but I'd be interested in seeing someone who is avidly lagging post some http://www.pingtest.net/ results to add some substance to their argument.

[Lumiin]

I hate when people say it's always the player or the player's ISP fault. It's a lot of people here that have been playing different MMOs for years and they have never had any issue until now. On a game where your position is checked by the server once every 0.3 seconds. ._. I don't know why they decided that was a good idea for a game that relies heavily on dodging.

[Jaykos]

Haven't struggled with lag ever since I got off wifi and onto a stable connection but I'd be interested in seeing someone who is avidly lagging post some http://www.pingtest.net/ results to add some substance to their argument.

As I said in my first post.

I understand that not everyone is lagging and in that case this thread isn't for you so don't post.

Get out of this thread.

[Massterchef]

As I said in my first post.

I understand that not everyone is lagging and in that case this thread isn't for you so don't post.

Get out of this thread.

I'm asking the people lagging to provide evidence that it is indeed the servers and not their connection, shouldn't be much of an issue.

[Chichicha]

People who keeps saying it's not the lag issue or anything, do you ever understand that :
Servers is in your country, but those people who are suffering are not in your country?

I, myself playing this in SEA (If you don't know this place, get some geography knowledge before you start defending Yoshi P or his IT team)
since I have to move to here and having started this game. My ping is nowhere near below 150ms to US/Canada/JP server.

If people outside of these countries (those with servers in it) are not welcome to play this game.
Please do let us know, and we can stop crying for the lack of responsive from server, and stop our subs.
Rather having us to put up hope for SE will one day fix this problem.
All the subs I have put in, I can save to buy some NON-online game, and shut-up here.

ps. Many similar thread is being deleted by Forum Admins, I am assuming this is something they don't want to know or hear.