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  1. #11
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Because he's using mitigation and you're not. Are you seriously complaining to everyone here that you used no mitigation and all and died, and that your WAR friend is overpowered because he... used mitigation?
    If Twin has Virus and the tank has SS + Aldo + Eye (and the deye debuff is on Twin) He shouldn't need to use CDs (although for the next DS it'd be a good idea to use mitigation since lolantibody)
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    All my mitigation has cooldowns. Inner beast has a 2.5s cooldown. So yes.
    Lol, no, it doesn't. It takes at least 20 seconds to build enough Wrath for IB using combos. So no, you still don't know what you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    If Twin has Virus and the tank has SS + Aldo + Eye (and the deye debuff is on Twin) He shouldn't need to use CDs (although for the next DS it'd be a good idea to use mitigation since lolantibody)
    No, he shouldn't. I'm sure it was totally unmitigated, and/or he didn't even have full HP and just chanced it hoping for a critical block or parry. Got what he had coming for trying to be lazy with mechanics and overgear it.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Lol, no, it doesn't. It takes at least 20 seconds to build enough Wrath for IB using combos. So no, you still don't know what you're talking about.
    Yes and Death Sentence is every 30 seconds there Einstein. Do the math. All my cds are over a minute.

    Lol @ the irony of your post.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    Yes and Death Sentence is every 30 seconds there Einstein. Do the math. All my cds are over a minute.
    Oh? I never could have guessed, since I have both jobs capped and you don't even have Warrior unlocked. I guess I should expect such ignorant rudeness from someone here to complain about dying for doing absolutely nothing in a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    How can one overgear for a fight tuned for i90? Lol.
    That's exactly what I'm saying. He's complaining that he dies for just sitting there and eating the biggest hit in the most punishing fight in the game at this time, like that's a problem.
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    Last edited by Gamemako; 02-12-2014 at 01:41 PM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    ...overgear it.
    How can one overgear for a fight tuned for i90? Lol. BESIDES having the i95 weapon

    Back on topic: Talk with your healers/BLM/SMNs to see what can be done. If both healers don't have eye up your BLM/SMN can do it quickly, your SCH can solo Virus. If WHMs can't get SS up in time, get them ready to pre-cure the damage with Cure 2 (my SS build can only heal 800s after Infirmary) and make sure the SCH has at least 1 AF stack for Lustrate (the BEST spell to heal after DS's debuff)
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Oh? I never could have guessed, since I have both jobs capped and you don't even have Warrior unlocked. I guess I should expect such ignorant rudeness from someone here to complain about dying for doing absolutely nothing in a fight.
    How am I being ignorant? Warrior can mitigate every single DS. Maybe you should go back to dps or something. For having both unlocked, you sure know nothing about the mechanics of them.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    How am I being ignorant? Warrior can mitigate every single DS. Maybe you should go back to dps or something. For having both unlocked, you sure know nothing about the mechanics of them.
    He can mitigate it with a 20% which brings him to EQUAL your PLD constant mitigation. Warriors get 1 shotted all the time, even with inner beast, 8k hp means nothing compared. Inner beast also doesn't always last for all 3-4 hits you take around the time of death sentence unless you time it perfect everytime, which isn't hard but isn't doable everytime without slowing your dmg rotation to avoid GCD lockout.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    He can mitigate it with a 20% which brings him to EQUAL your PLD constant mitigation. Warriors get 1 shotted all the time, even with inner beast, 8k hp means nothing compared.
    Maybe you forgot 18% stoneskin on 7k hp vs 8700? And 25% lustrate.

    Warrior simply scales better with WHM and SCH. And over 10k HP?
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    Last edited by Pesmergia; 02-12-2014 at 01:52 PM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    Maybe you forgot 18% stoneskin on 7k hp vs 8700?
    When Thrill of Battle is up SS becomes godly. Ever seen stacks in Ifrit Ex just not happen? ;p
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  10. #20
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    Soooo Warriors are op now?
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