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[Radkat]

Yeaaa okay... I disliked XIII because it was "popular" and not because it was quite literally one endless hallway broken up by the occasional cutscene. I learn something new about myself everyday.
I'm sure it also had nothing to do with how horrible the cast of characters were this time around... certainly not that.

I wasn't talking about XIII specifically, I was talking about the FF franchise. If that game was released as a non-FF game, it will get decent reviews. If you want a good story, the game needs to be linear in order to tell a tale. Sandbox RPGs like most MMO's and single players like The Elderly Scrolls have very thin and fractured storyline.

[Pandastirfry]

Yeaaa okay... I disliked XIII because it was "popular" and not because it was quite literally one endless hallway broken up by the occasional cutscene. I learn something new about myself everyday.
I'm sure it also had nothing to do with how horrible the cast of characters were this time around... certainly not that.

"Endless hallways broken up occasionally by cut-scenes " is a criticism that could be leveled at every Final Fantasy except XI and XIV, and I'm not going to get started on the "horrible cast of characters" criticism because no one is worse than Tidus aka: "The Main Character You Could Remove From His Game and The Story Wouldn't Really Change"

[Melithea]

"Endless hallways broken up occasionally by cut-scenes " is a criticism that could be leveled at every Final Fantasy except XI and XIV.

There's a big difference between a linear game and a game that is literally running forward through a series of hallways for 20 hours. Final Fantasy 1 though 9 all had a sense of exploration and adventure that 10 lacked and 13 straight up threw out the window.

[Pandastirfry]

There's a big difference between a linear game and a game that is literally running forward through a series of hallways for 20 hours. Final Fantasy 1 though 9 all had a sense of exploration and adventure that 10 lacked and 13 straight up threw out the window.

they had a sense of exploration because they used fixed camera angles. where as 13 had a controlable camera, if they had used fixed angles, no one would have made any kind of fuss. otherwise they have all been cramped corridor fests.

[Bakiraka]

"Endless hallways broken up occasionally by cut-scenes " is a criticism that could be leveled at every Final Fantasy except XI and XIV, and I'm not going to get started on the "horrible cast of characters" criticism because no one is worse than Tidus aka: "The Main Character You Could Remove From His Game and The Story Wouldn't Really Change"

I'd argue that other games at least had TOWNS to explore in earnest or more than one freakin' hallway for you to walk down. I'd also argue that taking Tidus out of FFX would in fact change the story as the majority of the story revolves around Tidus x Yuna and their blossoming romance as they explore Spira together. I'm not sure I've seen a FF game since with that much flirtation/romance in just about every other cutscene.

Give me Tidus' HAR HAR HAR over Snow's "SERIOUSLY GUYS IM A HERO, THAT IS WHY I NEED TO REMIND YOU EVERY TIME I GET A TURN TO SPEAK" any day of the week.

[Pandastirfry]

I'd argue that other games at least had TOWNS to explore in earnest or more than one freakin' hallway for you to walk down. I'd also argue that taking Tidus out of FFX would in fact change the story as the majority of the story revolves around Tidus x Yuna and their blossoming romance as they explore Spira together. I'm not sure I've seen a FF game since with that much flirtation/romance in just about every other cutscene.

Give me Tidus' HAR HAR HAR over Snow's "SERIOUSLY GUYS IM A HERO, THAT IS WHY I NEED TO REMIND YOU EVERY TIME I GET A TURN TO SPEAK" any day of the week.

yeah...the romance and flirtation in of Tidus and Yuna... the on that makes the love story in "Attack of the Clones" look well written?

[Bakiraka]

yeah...the romance and flirtation in of Tidus and Yuna... that makes the love story in "Attack of the Clones" look well written?

Not trying to argue it was the best romance ever written or even anything above fanfic level for most of it but YOU were trying to argue that taking Tidus out of the game wouldn't change the story at all which simply isn't true and is a painfully boring deflection from my point that FFXIII had one of the worst casts in an FF game. It would be like me refusing to acknowledge Tidus has flaws because of the fact that Snow and Hope possess the collective IQ of a rusted shovel.

[ReiszRie]

Seems like the Final Fantasy 13 hate stems from player's misguided opinion of what a Final Fantasy game is, we have a reached the era where players proclaims retro Final Fantasy as masterpieces whilst simultaneously hating on modern Final Fantasy titles even though they're equally as linear.

[Moirear]

Thanks, FFXIII haters. Everybody who enjoys these games always looks forward to these threads, where you show up uninvited with complaints about the game irrelevant to the topic, and argue as loudly and obnoxiously as possible as to why, in your opinion, they are horrible games. The internet does not have enough of your sorts already.

I commend you for the time you take out of your days to educate us, the stupid masses who enjoy these games despite how objectively horrible you find them, and show us the error in our ways.

My hat; consider it tipped!

[Bakiraka]

Thanks, FFXIII haters. Everybody who enjoys these games always looks forward to these threads, where you show up uninvited with complaints about the game irrelevant to the topic, and argue as loudly and obnoxiously as possible as to why, in your opinion, they are horrible games. The internet does not have enough of your sorts already.

I commend you for the time you take out of your days to educate us, the stupid masses who enjoy these games despite how objectively horrible you find them, and show us the error in our ways.

My hat; consider it tipped!

Damn girl, you bitter as hell.