Hard time choosing my DPSer.

[Alcyon1]

How to chose what DPS to play :
Question 1 : Melee or Ranged ? i.e DRG and MNK vs BRD and BLM and SMN
If you made a choice : dynamic or more static ? BRD or SMN or MNK vs BLM or DRG
Question 2 : which class suits you ? See question 1.
Question 3 : do your FC needs one of the jobs listed ?

Easy chart, isn't it ? And if you're playing alone, go for BRD. There is always a spot for a BRD.

[Remn]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/4696501/

Really now, as if you know what I do with my ACCOUNT.

Also, why are you taking offence to that statement? It was a compliment. You playing a summonor proves you are a rare breed, what's wrong with that?

P.S. And when you say "personally", it really doesn't mixed well with "please don't speak for everyone". Just saying... it contradicts things.



Check again, it is count to the nearest whole number. Yoshida P stated specifically that it WAS possible in beta but he/SE limited system's capability to avoid abuse or too much "auto-play".

Guys, what I said was in layman's term - For a newbie, who is new to the game, just starting, learning. Don't throw in rocket science numbers and shakespeare in a way that he/she wouldn't understand. Just generalise things, please.

I havent check that since 2.0 so they may change how it work.
but last time i did i check on MNK and pld.
with MNK i got 2.2 GCD i try /wait 2.1 and wait 2.4. the 2.1 did not work but 2.4 work. 2.1 and 2.4 nearest whole number is 2 (if round down and 3 if round up). they prolly change it
Anyway, to me using macro will reduce your damage out put by quite a bit since the /wait is not firing accurately

[Darske]

I like to think of each class in terms of simplicity and situational usage. That is, there are classes where abilities fall into simple rotations, and those that are more complex depending on the situation you're in. The simpler classes are easier to pick up and learn, and they're very good at what they do- but they do roughly the same thing the whole time through. More complex, varied jobs have more to be aware of and manage, but they're also a little more versatile. Obviously, the focus of a simple role and the versatility of a complex role compliment each other and balance out.

Mentally, I break them down into the following:
Paladin (simpler) -- Warrior (more to manage)
Dragoon (pretty simple rotation) -- Monk (more positional and situational abilities)
Black Mage (must be stationary when casting, abilities are simple damage dealing) -- Bard (can move while using abilities, very mobile and also has more varied abilities)
Summoner (kind of a balance between simplicity and mobility, but managing your Egi takes some skill when you decide to learn how and when to use Obey)
White Mage (reactive healer) -- Scholar (proactive healer)

Additionally, and you probably know this already after taking Warrior all the way up, DPS roles have different limit breaks.

Dragoon and Monk have melee limits, very strong against bosses.
Black Mage and Summoner have AOE limits, very useful to burn enemies in dungeons and in certain boss fights.

Important to note is that Archer and Bard have healing(!) limits, meaning that though you DPS, you can't deal damage with a Limit in a pinch.

Personally, I only have BLM up at 50. My impressions on other classes, especially healers, are limited at the moment and may not necessarily be accurate or reflect what you might think of them. But generally I find that the "simpler" classes are more potent (like BLM's HUGE damage numbers), while "complex" classes feel like you're doing different things, but you're doing things more often and each thing you do feels like it stacks up to relatively the same potency as the simpler class.

Also to note is that cross-class abilities have plenty of uses. I'd suggest picking up what you think looks most interesting and taking it to level 15, and switching to the simpler or more complex counterpart and seeing what you think of it. You'll either like it more or less, decide which one to take up to 50, and get some sweet abilities while you level it.

Hopefully this was helpful.

[Friske]

If I were you, I would pick the class that's best suited to your play style. For example, pick bards if you're into supporting the group, monks if you enjoy very complex rotations, black mages for high burst damage etc.

If you want a true answer to your question, I found that for endgame, bards are probably the most sought after especially in coil. Their abilities such as manasong are unmatched and are almost essential in keeping the healers topped up with mana in pretty long fights such as twintania. Couple that with dps that has almost 100% uptime on the boss, and you have a very powerful class - even with the 2.1 'nerf.'
I personally picked black mage as my main, mostly because its a good class to start with for beginners, and I love how you can juggle between umbral ice and astral fire at lvl50 to achieve some pretty cool combos.
So yeah, try all the classes and just pick the one that you like the most. I don't think any class is terrible at lvl50 and all of them have their own strengths and weakness. And I highly doubt you'll be discriminated against because of your class choice... Unless you pick dragoon. Some of the people I've met have been teased quite a bit because they're a dragoon, but don't let that put you off.

[Ooshima]

If you want a true answer to your question, I found that for endgame, bards are probably the most sought after especially in coil. Their abilities such as manasong are unmatched and are almost essential in keeping the healers topped up with mana in pretty long fights such as twintania. Couple that with dps that has almost 100% uptime on the boss, and you have a very powerful class - even with the 2.1 'nerf.'

Probably have to mention that they are sought after during progression, but once you've cleared them.. not really

I can't recall when's the last time I played manasong in T1-4. Even for our T5 clears, I don't think my healers needed it but I just played for a little towards the end of Phase 1 to bring them from 90+% to 100% MP

[ShinigamiB06]

And lastly, the DRG. I haven't tried him at all, is he any fun besides high and slow dps?

LMAO! buddy a dragoons dps is anything but slow. Im am not gonna sit here and tell you that dragoon is better or worse than other classes. But I will say that it is a CRAZY FUN class to play. this class has potentially the hardest rotation of all the classes. If you trully execute the rotation to perfection, you will see that it is quite the challenge, specially when you have to be attentive of aoe.

its a super fun class to play and the dragoon looks amazing!

[WowSuchName]

I am also having hard time choosing DPS to play. Can anyone rank the DPS in the below category ?

1. Single Target DPS - Long Fight (Ex. Twin fight)

2. AOE DPS - Long Fight (Ex. WP Speed Run)

3. Single Target DPS Burst (Ex. DPS race - Twin's Conflag)

4. AOE DPS Burst (Ex. DPS race - Twin Phase 3's snakes, Turn 4 mobs)

[Marcusow86]

I am also having hard time choosing DPS to play. Can anyone rank the DPS in the below category ?

1. Single Target DPS - Long Fight (Ex. Twin fight)

2. AOE DPS - Long Fight (Ex. WP Speed Run)

3. Single Target DPS Burst (Ex. DPS race - Twin's Conflag)

4. AOE DPS Burst (Ex. DPS race - Twin Phase 3's snakes, Turn 4 mobs)

Wil only provide the best in each category....IMO

1. MNK/DRG
2. BLM
3. DRG/BLM
4. BLM

[Riichi]

The most important thing is playing whichever class you want. They are all completely viable and interesting in their own ways. The second most important thing is playing which class your FC needs.

[Asdamine]

Your statement said "does not appeal to anyone." I point out that it does in fact appeal to me. So that makes your statement false. Why? Because when you say anyone, I am included in that blanket statement.

When people say "anyone" or "everyone", it does not encompass the entire world and exclusive to one condition. It's like people say "The whole world is full of kind hearted people" it does not mean the world really is FULL of kind hearted people. There are Hitler, Osama, the Russian hostage kid etc. It is simply a statement stating by default people are kind hearted in nature.

Now back to my statement saying "(it) does not appeal to anyone", it does NOT include every single human beings in this entire universe (I mean, really? Is that what you think I am saying? Then Try differentiate the words - Rich, Richer, and Richest). It is simply a statement stating the opinion of the majority, and the majority is that summoner is the least played class, and for a reason.

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Macro is only effective for off global cooldown abilities or /p warnings etc. The macro I stated was in referal to the previous guy asking me on how to 2 button a blm class, which was in reference to my original statement that blm is capable of playing with 2 buttons only.

(And to all of you people who is going to try to nippick my words, trying looking up the dictionary on the meaning between the word "Capable" and "Efficiency" before you saying "Oh, but you can't! That would bring out blm max dps level". What I am saying is "As a blm you can just stand still at a corner and macro away while eating your sandwich on the other hand" - 2 entirely different meaning...!)