Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
I just said it was likely.. You'd be in Defiance with all offensive buffs and pulling a BB combo around 6 GCDs in.. Sure the MT could have threat established by then, but not always. I just tend to not burn Infuriate>Unchained unless I'm pulling as MT. The only difference is getting off an IB.
300 potency attack, no drawbacks. S'pretty good. BB is only for the highest possible DPS, you really have no reason to use it though - using simply SE -> SP is good enough. You also have many options:

1.) You can save Berserk for when you're out of Defiance as you don't need the extra Wrath stack, you just get the most DPS out of it with Unchained up at the same time.
2.) Wait until the MT has gotten off an aggro combo or two before going into Defiance, Infuriate, Unchained, etc.
3.) Don't use Defiance at all because you're too scared that you'll rip aggro off the MT, yet use BB despite it causing SE or SP to drop off every time.

Honestly, man, if you just want to stick to SE -> SP that's cool. You don't need to do any of this. It's just the most DPS you can actually do at literally no risk unless your MT is so braindead they forget to do their aggro combo. Unchained alone isn't going to do a whole lot with no BB combos thrown in, especially since on the initial pull your MT will either have FoF or Unchained up. It's... just really hard to pull aggro off the MT unless you way outgear him, idk what else to tell you. I run with an i90 PLD, and sure, I come close to his aggro sometimes, but I never rip hate off him. The only time where this rotation doesn't work is if you need to tank swap, as it's not only hard to actually get off this particular rotation after a swap, you'll also probably pull aggro off the MT because he'd have to be as on the ball as you. Otherwise, s'pretty no risk / high reward.