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  1. #21
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    WellGramarye's Avatar
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    According to SE its a ranged attack, just like Jump :> The distance closing ability is an "added effect" of the ability. Just like how Spinshatter Dive does the same thing; but vanilla Jump doesn't. DRG has 4 ranged attacks. MNK has 1. PLD has 2. WAR has 1 native.

    Shoulder Tackle was specially made like it is so Monk WOULD have a Ranged Attack in ARR, thus it is one.
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    @Vilzen no clue about DRG's abilities, so thanks

    @Pence I love MNK. I love punching. I love gearing it and learning the combos better. I like being close to the monster. However, I have noticed that out in the field I am the slowest to claim things. It sucks and makes it a hindrance to stock certain items. That, imo, isn't fair. I don't want the ranged to do dmg. I'm not asking for a super ability. Just one that can also make monsters come to close the gap with me.

    Edit: @ Vilzen below me: Exactly.
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  3. #23
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    Rin Upara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Monk is a close ranged melee job, they're not sitting back with the mages sniping all the demon walls with their pebbles. They be whackin' with their fists. Even their current 'ranged' attack focuses on the fact that they need to sit on the mob for a good time.

    Just because X job can do something, doesn't mean all jobs should. If SE wanted projectiles in game, they wouldn't have removed them with 2.0.
    Right because we're saying the ranged skill should be a major part of their rotation and not a qol functionality. /end sarcasm
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyStorm View Post
    @Vilzen no clue about DRG's abilities, so thanks

    @Pence I love MNK. I love punching. I love gearing it and learning the combos better. I like being close to the monster. However, I have noticed that out in the field I am the slowest to claim things. It sucks and makes it a hindrance to stock certain items. That, imo, isn't fair. I don't want the ranged to do dmg. I'm not asking for a super ability. Just one that can also make monsters come to close the gap with me.

    Edit: @ Vilzen below me: Exactly.
    Drop Monk Soulstone. Crossclass Provoke. Done.

    Edit: Can't use Aero Lulz
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  5. #25
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    Rin Upara
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    According to SE its a ranged attack, just like Jump :> The distance closing ability is an "added effect" of the ability. Just like how Spinshatter Dive does the same thing; but vanilla Jump doesn't. DRG has 4 ranged attacks. MNK has 1. PLD has 2. WAR has 1 native.

    Shoulder Tackle was specially made like it is so Monk WOULD have a Ranged Attack in ARR, thus it is one.
    Just like cure and fire are ranged abilities. I never said shoulder tackle wasn't ranged. I just said distance closer and ranged attacks are very different. I still see no reason why monk can't have a pure ranged attack for qol reasons.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilzen View Post
    Just like cure and fire are ranged abilities. I never said shoulder tackle wasn't ranged. I just said distance closer and ranged attacks are very different. I still see no reason why monk can't have a pure ranged attack for qol reasons.
    Sure. Why not. Lets give WHM Dia back too. Wyverns for Dragoons. Samurai and Ninjas oh my. Oh and I want a pony.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    Sure. Why not. Lets give WHM Dia back too. Wyverns for Dragoons. Samurai and Ninjas oh my. Oh and I want a pony.
    Dia? Sure whatever. Wyverns? No thanks. YoshiP already gave a very solid reason why not. Samurai and ninja are most likely coming. It's not a pony but you can get a unicorn. If you want a pony mount so badly you should request it in that minion and mount thread.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilzen View Post
    Dia? Sure whatever. Wyverns? No thanks. YoshiP already gave a very solid reason why not. Samurai and ninja are most likely coming. It's not a pony but you can get a unicorn. If you want a pony mount so badly you should request it in that minion and mount thread.
    Unicorn isn't the same thing as a Pony, same as Shoulder Tackle isn't the same thing as a Ranged attack.

    Huehuehuehue.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    Unicorn isn\\'t the same thing as a Pony, same as Shoulder Tackle isn\\'t the same thing as a Ranged attack.

    Huehuehuehue.
    Touché I should have seen that coming.
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    When you see a list that BIG of things we should already have, its when you think this game still need a lot of polishing. I agree with most of them and hopefully we will see them soon. There are others not much necessary but wouldnt hurt if we had I guess.
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