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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    You loose about 10-15 seconds of melee dps getting out of wicked wheel range, and it's harder then MT, because melees can't just "pop a cool down". Add to the fact you you also regening garuda about 5% for the phase, and the fact that the OT who is tanking suprana has to get spiny and have healers split their heals.

    Bascially MT is going "Shit I can't do this, do it for me" to the rest of the members.
    If melee are losing up to 15 sec dodging WW they're doing something wrong; not to mention that your group can easily change strat.s to accommodate them (and probably should). As for the regeneration, I've never seen any difference, my static members have stated there's no difference with somewhat surprise (outside of carrying a bad damage dealer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    If melee are losing up to 15 sec dodging WW they're doing something wrong; not to mention that your group can easily change strat.s to accommodate them (and probably should). As for the regeneration, I've never seen any difference, my static members have stated there's no difference with somewhat surprise (outside of carrying a bad damage dealer).
    If MT can't survive the feather double wicked, then he's doing something wrong.

    It's tic for tat.

    And the regen makes a difference between LBing garuda on tornado and pushing her to the next phase. her arial burst is stronger each time even inside the bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    If MT can't survive the feather double wicked, then he's doing something wrong.

    It's tic for tat.

    And the regen makes a healing between LBing garuda on tornado and pushing her to the next phase. her arial burst is stronger each time even inside the bubble.
    I think you're completely missing what I'm trying to get across; with competent players, any of the strats makes no difference, you tailor your strat to your group.

    Garuda's regen isn't half as potent as it's claimed to be, we see the same level regenerated no matter which strat we use; hence, she always dies at the same point 'less we carry a damage dealer using either strat. MT should be dodging feathers if Chirada is killed first; the placement can be a bit funky (and dangerous if a ranged player is derping about), but it's not impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    I think you're completely missing what I'm trying to get across; with competent players, any of the strats makes no difference, you tailor your strat to your group.

    Garuda's regen isn't half as potent as it's claimed to be, we see the same level regenerated no matter which strat we use; hence, she always dies at the same point 'less we carry a damage dealer using either strat. MT should be dodging feathers if Chirada is killed first; the placement can be a bit funky (and dangerous if a ranged player is derping about), but it's not impossible.
    not really, if you do have "competent" players then single healer strat with MT on suprana is the "best". Single healer strat easly can carry even 1 dead body unlike other strat, and pushes garuda to 1 phase, and you only get 1 wicked wheel.

    You're trying to split hairs on a strat that is not optimize and really benefits only one member. I don't know why this chirada tanking keeps coming up. Maybe because it's a tanking sub-forum.

    While yes it does vary from group to group,

    It's un optimized, and even more dangerous then 3 way tanking in some ways. MTing is not easy, but "competent group" is stretching the believably factor.

    "no difference" is not the correct term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
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    Single healer strat is optimized for a specific composition, this isn't possible or optimized for everyone due to gear and job restrictions; again, you tailor your strat to your group.

    "Chirada tanking" keeps coming up because it works better for some groups, I'm not sure why this would surprise you. "No difference" was in reference to the standard comp.s utilizing 2 healers, may be I should quit assuming people talk about the most common place compositions and strategies. I'm not sure where you're going with the remark about having a "competent group", you see i85+ players that haven't a clue about their job/class on a common basis. I would even argue that MTing is easy; every fight is scripted, you learn the way it progresses and execute your abilities according to such.
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