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  1. #21
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaliss View Post

    Same role different play styles.
    Absolutely false. One is more a nurse, the other is more a doctor. Both can do lower level stuff but specialized in different areas when pushed to their limits.

    Whm is also much more versatile. 2xwhm can do almost any content with a little hassle. 2x sch is a nightmare for most content.

    Sch is weaker in hindsight, but they make a good whm awesome.

    Stems from the fact that sch have great sch skills, but poor arcanist base
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 02-05-2014 at 12:47 AM.

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    your not far enough into the game to make any real conclusions either way
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  3. #23
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    Mskala Hatchet
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    If I do a low lvl dungeon to help someone out, I got sch. Eos is stupidly op. You don't have to micro her because SE made these dungeons to be cleared by heal spam. This lets the sch operate as dps #3.

    After the low lvl dungeons though? I prefer healing hard stuff on whm. There are a few things, like Titan, where I am constantly dodging, so I want lustrate as a way to heal on the move if needed. Other than that, I operate way better on whm.
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  4. #24
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    Odeve Audbenard
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    This thread made me laugh but provides quite a bit of perspective on how finely tuned things are.

    Coming from wow, I remember disc priests pumping out so many shields that holy priests were nearly extinct on my server. It was either disc or roll another healer class entirely.

    Glad to see things aren't quite so out of hand. Guess there's a place for brute-forcing things even in healing.
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  5. #25
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    Chronos Black
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    Archer Lv 50
    SE kinda addressed this with how early WHM gets esuna. almost every boss in every dungeon has dots than can be cleared and healed effectively with a WHM vs. a SCH who has to just power through it.

    Later on MP management for a WHM becomes stupid easy, and divine seal is extremely effective. Having 3-6 lustrates available at any time IS better than the lackluster Benediction. Benediction is a great skill, but its extremely long CD and the long animation time can sometimes not hit your target at the desired time, resulting in death and the spell being wasted on the user.

    The WHM's enhanced stoneskin is awesome and i would use it more often if the cast was shorter and the mp cost was less. at this point in time its much more efficient to just use cure I to heal the dmg rather than preventing it(except Death Sentence)
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  6. #26
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    What all these SCH vs. WHM debates inevitably become:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcvx...ature=youtu.be
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  7. #27
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    Allyra Arianos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Absolutely false. One is more a nurse, the other is more a doctor. Both can do lower level stuff but specialized in different areas when pushed to their limits.

    Whm is also much more versatile. 2xwhm can do almost any content with a little hassle. 2x sch is a nightmare for most content.

    Sch is weaker in hindsight, but they make a good whm awesome.

    Stems from the fact that sch have great sch skills, but poor arcanist base
    Check out this lack of sch versatility right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9bZUBCv4gk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUixQym5epA

    Seriously, sch is awesome and if you don't know that you haven't gotten far enough into the game or just don't do it correctly.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    Check out this lack of sch versatility right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9bZUBCv4gk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUixQym5epA


    Both jobs are equally good, and equally versatile.


    Seriously, sch is awesome and if you don't know that you haven't gotten far enough into the game or just don't do it correctly.

    But here's the thing, there is no reason why a team of WHM's +Tanks+ maybe a bard couldn't do this too...and I don't even think the bard would be manditory....

    Both jobs are capable of doing the same content...they just do it slightly differently.

    And a good SCH+WHM team is magic. Just a pure healing machine.

    So can we stop now? SCH is not> WHM WHM is not>SCH
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post

    SCH is not> WHM WHM is not>SCH
    Uhhh, I never said anything differently...? I was just countering the person who claimed sch wasn't versatile at all.

    I play both jobs fyi.
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  10. #30
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Difference between Whm and Sch?

    Active and Dmg prevention vs Reactive Heals.

    Lustrate looks good, till you run out of Flows. It is more of a band aid, casted so ppl don't straight out die before the Whm get the spell off.

    Whm can only dream to have this ability, but All Sch dream to be able to AoE heal like a Whm. Succor just cannot do it unless it crits.

    Sch and Whm working together, = Great team

    Whm + Whm = Heal Team

    Sch + Sch = Solo heal Team (Basically each 1 focus on their respective tanks 100%, and let the Fairies heal the DPS)

    So far I only done Sch + Sch combo with success only one, at T4. O man... the Succor spam
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    Last edited by HumsterMKX; 02-09-2014 at 05:12 AM.

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