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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    you honestly must be delusional. I'm not against allowing it, but the reality is only a very small minuscule portion of the player base even bothers complaining on here, regardless of what the issue is.
    You can think what you want, but i'm pretty sure you'll find more gamers in the world that are supportive of this sort of thing then against it. When a company makes a statement on either side of an ideal, there's a customer reaction; The more important the ideal in question, the bigger the reaction it gets.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmcsky View Post
    Good to see a man with your lifestyle actually speak something sensible, it is always the extremes with these topics, perhaps people forget the general view of love and only focus on their view of it .
    I would then guess that if SQE had decided to say "Find yourself a strapping lad" to all the guys in the quest, that you would remember the "general view" of love and not focus on your view of it? I would hope that you wouldn't; I would hope that you would air the same disappointment with SQE as we are now as it never feels good to be on the receiving end of this kind of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    You can think what you want, but i'm pretty sure you'll find more gamers in the world that are supportive of this sort of thing then against it. When a company makes a statement on either side of an ideal, there's a customer reaction; The more important the ideal in question, the bigger the reaction it gets.
    I'm also pretty sure that I'll find even more gamers in the world that are indifferent to it and won't bother complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I'm also pretty sure that I'll find even more gamers in the world that are indifferent to it and won't bother complaining.
    I guess the only thing to do is wait for the day that SQE releases marriage and see how the coin falls then.
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    Even in real life, the number of people that are indifferent/don't care/don't vote still likely surpass the number of vocal advocates for either side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    A fair thing to get offended over would be if FFXIV had, say... a marriage system with gameplay benefits, but only a male and female could get married (there are many Korean MMOs that have this kind of feature), I would think outrage over that kind of a feature would be justified.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

    "As for same-sex marriage, this is an extremely controversial topic that has been under discussion in the MMO world for the past few years," Yoshida said. "First we would like to start out with opposite-sex marriage, and then consider the feedback from our players in order to make a careful decision. I can't say whether or not it will be possible at this point in time. I'd like to keep dialog open with our players as we deliberate the matter."
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    You can think what you want, but i'm pretty sure you'll find more gamers in the world that are supportive of this sort of thing then against it. When a company makes a statement on either side of an ideal, there's a customer reaction; The more important the ideal in question, the bigger the reaction it gets.


    I would then guess that if SQE had decided to say "Find yourself a strapping lad" to all the guys in the quest, that you would remember the "general view" of love and not focus on your view of it? I would hope that you wouldn't; I would hope that you would air the same disappointment with SQE as we are now as it never feels good to be on the receiving end of this kind of thing.
    I would find the quote strange given that my character is a man,but I would not give it a second thought, I am not given to project myself into my characters. The same can be said when a man plays as a woman despite being heterosexual and being told he needs to find a guy. It is at the end your psychology that does not allow you to enjoy the content subjectively without asking SE to help you project yourself as a homosexual man.
    The game just cannot cater to every single thing, it is a permeating effect in every aspect of life.
    The universal status quo on romance is still generally man and woman, imagine if they had to put every single type of attraction out there?

    Personally I wouldn't give a rat's behind about valentine's day, it is a waste of time and money, Why would I care for a loved one on a single day when there are 364 other days to also do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcsky View Post
    I would find the quote strange given that my character is a man,but I would not give it a second thought, I am not given to project myself into my characters. The same can be said when a man plays as a woman despite being heterosexual and being told he needs to find a guy. It is at the end your psychology that does not allow you to enjoy the content subjectively without asking SE to help you project yourself as a homosexual man.
    The game just cannot cater to every single thing, it is a permeating effect in every aspect of life.
    The universal status quo on romance is still generally man and woman, imagine if they had to put every single type of attraction out there?

    Personally I wouldn't give a rat's behind about valentine's day, it is a waste of time and money, Why would I care for a loved one on a single day when there are 364 other days to also do it?
    Here here!!
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcsky View Post
    The game just cannot cater to every single thing, it is a permeating effect in every aspect of life.
    The universal status quo on romance is still generally man and woman, imagine if they had to put every single type of attraction out there?
    "Find someone you care about and share this chocolate with them!"

    Done. Next failed argument please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    "Find someone you care about and share this chocolate with them!"

    Done. Next failed argument please.
    He isn't making failed arguments, you just can't let go that this is a video game, and not some virtual reality mirror of real life. It DOES NOT have to mimic real life in every freakin' aspect. Why can't people understand this? It honestly boggles the mind why people are so upset about this, regardless of sexuality or gender.

    There are MMO's, single player games, and every other form of media that caters to every sexuality, and every gender now. Going around demanding every game be the way YOU want it, is kind of silly to be honest with you. If that's the case, I want to see you spear-heading the movement for marriage and LGBT events in every single MMO that's currently being played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcsky View Post
    I would find the quote strange given that my character is a man,but I would not give it a second thought, I am not given to project myself into my characters. The same can be said when a man plays as a woman despite being heterosexual and being told he needs to find a guy. It is at the end your psychology that does not allow you to enjoy the content subjectively without asking SE to help you project yourself as a homosexual man.
    The game just cannot cater to every single thing, it is a permeating effect in every aspect of life.
    The universal status quo on romance is still generally man and woman, imagine if they had to put every single type of attraction out there?

    Personally I wouldn't give a rat's behind about valentine's day, it is a waste of time and money, Why would I care for a loved one on a single day when there are 364 other days to also do it?

    I like you and your post, let us be friends.
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